Bryan Cantrill

And so let me ask you about that because I think that I do think that, that, uh, there is a gig and cultural breakthroughs in Silicon Valley. I mean, when, you know, in 1973, the world is very command and control and Xerox is very command and control, right?

And so let me ask you about that because I think that I do think that, that, uh, there is a gig and cultural breakthroughs in Silicon Valley. I mean, when, you know, in 1973, the world is very command and control and Xerox is very command and control, right?

I mean, that's part of, you've got these kind of park, these, these nuts out on the West coast, but Xerox as a company is actually very command and control. It's part of the reason that they do fumble the future is there's such an impedance mismatch between the way Xerox is structured and the way park is structured. Yeah. 100%.

I mean, that's part of, you've got these kind of park, these, these nuts out on the West coast, but Xerox as a company is actually very command and control. It's part of the reason that they do fumble the future is there's such an impedance mismatch between the way Xerox is structured and the way park is structured. Yeah. 100%.

But the way Park was structured is actually much more fitting for what are going to be the next 50 years. And you look at the innovative companies and at their peak of innovation, and they all are structured. I mean, they look pretty similar to Park in terms of...

But the way Park was structured is actually much more fitting for what are going to be the next 50 years. And you look at the innovative companies and at their peak of innovation, and they all are structured. I mean, they look pretty similar to Park in terms of...

And it's exactly... Yeah, absolutely.

And it's exactly... Yeah, absolutely.

and it's it's outrageous um you know uh what they are anyway um where where i was going with that and by the way like park as as amazing as park was and and singular you can see a lot of echoes of park in fairchild a generation earlier and the in terms of like fairchild's contrast to and fairchild and then what the way intel the way bob noise structured intel i mean In the early days, yeah.

and it's it's outrageous um you know uh what they are anyway um where where i was going with that and by the way like park as as amazing as park was and and singular you can see a lot of echoes of park in fairchild a generation earlier and the in terms of like fairchild's contrast to and fairchild and then what the way intel the way bob noise structured intel i mean In the early days, yeah.

The early days of Intel. There's this through line through Silicon Valley of when you see a group that did something extraordinary together, they are generative cultures. There's some real commonality there.

The early days of Intel. There's this through line through Silicon Valley of when you see a group that did something extraordinary together, they are generative cultures. There's some real commonality there.

Built with slide rules, that thing.

Built with slide rules, that thing.

ben rich's skunk works is a phenomenal read yes that actually was reading that book which i got for my son uh who's an aviation enthusiast and the third generation of uh of shop engineers by the way or will be uh will be very soon pressure are you he's going he's going he's gonna do an internship as a software engineer he's gonna be like you know what actually i'm realizing that like the law is really my calling um

ben rich's skunk works is a phenomenal read yes that actually was reading that book which i got for my son uh who's an aviation enthusiast and the third generation of uh of shop engineers by the way or will be uh will be very soon pressure are you he's going he's going he's gonna do an internship as a software engineer he's gonna be like you know what actually i'm realizing that like the law is really my calling um

Yeah. And so, I mean, I think this is one of the, this is a very important, again, through line in Silicon Valley. And because your career has really been not just about this kind of technical contribution, but much more so, I dare say, than your father thinking kind of organizationally and thinking about like,

Yeah. And so, I mean, I think this is one of the, this is a very important, again, through line in Silicon Valley. And because your career has really been not just about this kind of technical contribution, but much more so, I dare say, than your father thinking kind of organizationally and thinking about like,

teams and how we structure people and how we motivate them um i mean that's something that is really not what your dad did but correct me if i'm wrong i know he did he he started a company of his own um after although i cannot find much on it on oh my gosh yeah well uh you'd have to come to my house to find any remnants okay so we might do that i actually did wonder about that is why i'm like because there's like aurora systems is what he started after xerox park and there is just not a lot on the internet about this company

teams and how we structure people and how we motivate them um i mean that's something that is really not what your dad did but correct me if i'm wrong i know he did he he started a company of his own um after although i cannot find much on it on oh my gosh yeah well uh you'd have to come to my house to find any remnants okay so we might do that i actually did wonder about that is why i'm like because there's like aurora systems is what he started after xerox park and there is just not a lot on the internet about this company