Bryan Cantrill

And then so, but in your career, again, you were really thinking about this kind of team formation and, and how you would, I mean, so kind of, I mean, it really does feel like you're kind of building on your father's experience in a way that taking it in a different direction.

And then so, but in your career, again, you were really thinking about this kind of team formation and, and how you would, I mean, so kind of, I mean, it really does feel like you're kind of building on your father's experience in a way that taking it in a different direction.

So, but I think by contrast, your career has been very team oriented and have been kind of very, is that, I mean, it must give you great, I mean, obviously you are a technologist as well, but just having that from your father must give you great empathy for that kind of contributor because we still have like plenty of people that are like that.

So, but I think by contrast, your career has been very team oriented and have been kind of very, is that, I mean, it must give you great, I mean, obviously you are a technologist as well, but just having that from your father must give you great empathy for that kind of contributor because we still have like plenty of people that are like that.

that make extraordinary contributions that are really important to kind of to inspire? And I mean, is that as your experience with your dad, I mean, helped you as an engineering leader?

that make extraordinary contributions that are really important to kind of to inspire? And I mean, is that as your experience with your dad, I mean, helped you as an engineering leader?

Yeah. And I can, I mean, I, for whatever it's worth, I'm like that too. I do not talk about work at home. Um, I'm always like, listen to the podcast. Yeah. Do you like dad? Dad, how was work? Like, yeah, go to the podcast. No one's ever asked me that.

Yeah. And I can, I mean, I, for whatever it's worth, I'm like that too. I do not talk about work at home. Um, I'm always like, listen to the podcast. Yeah. Do you like dad? Dad, how was work? Like, yeah, go to the podcast. No one's ever asked me that.

Yeah, exactly. Right. And I think it's a trick question. Usually is. What do you want? Right. Exactly. Whatever you want. It's fine. Let's just get what did you do? What did you break? Let's just get past it.

Yeah, exactly. Right. And I think it's a trick question. Usually is. What do you want? Right. Exactly. Whatever you want. It's fine. Let's just get what did you do? What did you break? Let's just get past it.

Tell me what you broke. A question about what are some of your must-read books? We've already mentioned Dealers of Lightning. I think Dealers of Lightning is a must-read for everybody. I really do think that's a terrific book.

Tell me what you broke. A question about what are some of your must-read books? We've already mentioned Dealers of Lightning. I think Dealers of Lightning is a must-read for everybody. I really do think that's a terrific book.

As if they were all... Thank you for pronouncing that in the original French, by the way. Oh, you're... We're trying to get that right around here.

As if they were all... Thank you for pronouncing that in the original French, by the way. Oh, you're... We're trying to get that right around here.

Oh, I've not heard this before. No big deal.

Oh, I've not heard this before. No big deal.

This is kind of like the blogging software that took your PR once, and as a result, you feel like... Oh, I co-wrote this blogging software.

This is kind of like the blogging software that took your PR once, and as a result, you feel like... Oh, I co-wrote this blogging software.

I'm just saying they've got very good taste. That's all I've got to say. They have exquisite taste in PRs.

I'm just saying they've got very good taste. That's all I've got to say. They have exquisite taste in PRs.