Bryan Hayes

Matthews, Quinn Hughes won a Norris, right?

Like, you've got, you had superstars.

You had Eric Carlson in Ottawa prior to leaving, where he won multiple Norris trophies.

You know, if you look at the last 10 years, there have been a lot of superstars playing in Canadian markets, and none of the teams could win.

I mean, Edmonton got to, exactly, Carey Price.

Like, Edmonton got to two cup finals, Montreal got to a cup final.

And that's it.

It's not like they didn't have the star power.

It's that they couldn't figure out the rest of it, which was not a Canadian thing.

They didn't draft properly, or they got impatient, or they didn't have the right coach.

It's hard.

Well, on the two guys we just referenced, Quinn Hughes left Vancouver.

They're the worst team in the league.

By a mile.

And Mitch left, and the Leafs were the fifth worst team in the league.

Now, it was a different context to the Leafs scenario, and his situation was much more... That wasn't a Canadian thing.

That was very specific to his history with the Leafs and all that.

The Toronto thing.

Very much so.

But...