Bryan Johnson

Yes, exactly.

Yes, exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I've learned to be, in doing this for four years, I've learned to be very humble. I don't know how much we know and how much we don't know. Maybe, for example, we actually know 2% of what we will know in 10, 20, 30 years. And so we're very humble. For example, I am vegan. I'm caloric restriction. And yet, if you hear those stats, and I also do low protein.

So I've learned to be, in doing this for four years, I've learned to be very humble. I don't know how much we know and how much we don't know. Maybe, for example, we actually know 2% of what we will know in 10, 20, 30 years. And so we're very humble. For example, I am vegan. I'm caloric restriction. And yet, if you hear those stats, and I also do low protein.

And so if you hear those stats, the cultural norm would be like, oh, he for sure is broken, weak, not capable, not athletic, not strong. But in every category, like my cardiovascular fitness, my actual physical strength, all my metrics are top 1%. And so we've defied the cultural norm of what is good health, how you achieve good health.

And so if you hear those stats, the cultural norm would be like, oh, he for sure is broken, weak, not capable, not athletic, not strong. But in every category, like my cardiovascular fitness, my actual physical strength, all my metrics are top 1%. And so we've defied the cultural norm of what is good health, how you achieve good health.

And so I know this is probably true for others as well, is many of the things we believe are probably not true. And so I'm soft also that I've learned that people have a justification for everything. There's just no way around it. That's humans. And so I don't try to resist it. Just say like, Great. Do your thing. Just measure your data because we know the stats.

And so I know this is probably true for others as well, is many of the things we believe are probably not true. And so I'm soft also that I've learned that people have a justification for everything. There's just no way around it. That's humans. And so I don't try to resist it. Just say like, Great. Do your thing. Just measure your data because we know the stats.

Like for example, if you're not sleeping well, your other markers are going to be off like your S you know, SB 100, uh, like all these different, all these markers are going to be off. I invite, just look at the data.

Like for example, if you're not sleeping well, your other markers are going to be off like your S you know, SB 100, uh, like all these different, all these markers are going to be off. I invite, just look at the data.

I mean, like, if you notice, like I did this, my company Kernel, we built this brain interface, this wearable fMRI. And we were measuring the effects on my brain of willpower with deep sleep and without deep sleep. So with deep sleep, my willpower was significantly high. without deep sleep, it significantly dropped.

I mean, like, if you notice, like I did this, my company Kernel, we built this brain interface, this wearable fMRI. And we were measuring the effects on my brain of willpower with deep sleep and without deep sleep. So with deep sleep, my willpower was significantly high. without deep sleep, it significantly dropped.

And so if the next day after deep sleep, you're trying to decide, do you eat the brownie or not? Do you work out or not? Do you have a drink or not? The chances of you caving in that moment are significantly higher if you've not had deep sleep. And then it has this cascade effect.

And so if the next day after deep sleep, you're trying to decide, do you eat the brownie or not? Do you work out or not? Do you have a drink or not? The chances of you caving in that moment are significantly higher if you've not had deep sleep. And then it has this cascade effect.

So if you don't sleep, then you're also going to do this bad thing, which also leads to poor sleep, which also leads to doing more bad things. So it has this domino effect where it really cements bad habits and it becomes harder for you to come out from underneath it of actually making meaningful change.

So if you don't sleep, then you're also going to do this bad thing, which also leads to poor sleep, which also leads to doing more bad things. So it has this domino effect where it really cements bad habits and it becomes harder for you to come out from underneath it of actually making meaningful change.

Exactly. It just devastates your willpower. And like all these other cascading things. And so that's why like, I think in even like five or 10 years, I think that health is gonna, it will become the zeitgeist. And I think we'll look back and we'll be like, what? Like we used to just sleep the part of ourselves and like we had no idea what it was doing for these follow-on effects.

Exactly. It just devastates your willpower. And like all these other cascading things. And so that's why like, I think in even like five or 10 years, I think that health is gonna, it will become the zeitgeist. And I think we'll look back and we'll be like, what? Like we used to just sleep the part of ourselves and like we had no idea what it was doing for these follow-on effects.