Caitlin Golden

the connection between what he did to Saskia and what he is doing in his business now.

It's like he has had to sever something in his mind in order to move forward with his life.

And that's a privilege that Saskia will never be afforded.

Carrie, I was going to ask you, you know, having worked on this show in every iteration of it, having worked with so many different subjects.

What to you really resonated this season?

Totally.

And I mean, with the idea that this is a trend, for me, one of the most impactful parts of this season was talking to all of these other women who had experienced this crime.

We did also include these stories of Natalie, Ember, and Stephanie, and watching the three of them in their progression and their healing journey has been...

Really impactful, too.

I mean, Dre and I talk all the time about Natalie in particular.

She'd never heard of a story like her own until she heard Stephanie's episodes on Betrayal Weekly.

And when I first got on the phone with her, she was incredibly nervous.

And over the course of many, many months, we had lots of conversations back and forth about, do you want to tell your story now?

Is later down the line a better time?

What level of anonymity do we want to use?

She eventually felt comfortable.

And when we had that roundtable conversation with all of these other survivors, it was like a different woman came.

was in that room.

Like, our hope as a show is always that the people that we're working with, we are able to impact their lives in some little way.

That by helping them tell their story, we are helping them on their healing journey.