Caitlin Green

Like, I don't understand.

That's essentially what he's doing.

Put some heels on this guy.

He's already very attractive.

And you have a dominatrix.

Is he attractive, though?

I was going to say off mic, what did you describe him as?

You said he's a fine looking boy.

He's also 22.

He's in like the glowing years of his youth when he's naturally filled with collagen, naturally going to be fit and healthier than he is when he logs onto his computer and roasts someone at 50 years old, which does happen.

So it's like, of course, it's easier for you to quote unquote looks max.

You're 22 years old, bro.

So yeah, he's a troublesome figure and he doesn't need to pluck his eyebrows to the degree that he does, but he does do that.

And here we are.

I mean, I want to say like I'm so not plugged into the like manosphere of like online male culture that I learn about these things through headlines, through like a story like this about him being arrested.

And then I figure out how big of a deal it is based on how much money they're making, based on how many subscribers they have.

And so his online footprint and following is fairly large.

But it isn't really like it's not in my world.

Like if you're sitting here listening to us going, what are these two people talking about?

That's that's also normal.