Cal Newport

Well, it's difficult because there's a lot of fudging of the numbers here.

There's a lot of mistaking have used or experimented with are regularly using them.

So I see this mistake happen a lot.

And so it's difficult to get good numbers.

There was like famously, maybe it was an Ethan Mollick article where he was talking about in my world, like academia, the homework apocalypse.

And he's like, look at this study.

Students just don't do work anymore.

Nine out of 10 are just using chatbots now.

But you look at that study and what it actually said was nine out of 10 had tried using a chatbot at least once.

And if you looked at who's using them regularly, it was like two out of 10, right?

Because like for most of the students, it wasn't helping them the way they thought it would.

So I don't know what the numbers are.

If you count like,

Advanced Google use, I think it's larger.

Like, yeah, I searched for information on this instead of going to Google.

That's larger.

But in terms of people who are actually making Office work product out of it, I think it's smaller than the people who follow AI commentary or talk about it on AI Twitter, AI YouTube.

I think it's a lot smaller than they probably assume just because in their world it's pervasive.

But the people who are using it, this is the problem.

They're trying to avoid, this is my theory on this, is like, how is AI helping like an Office worker now?