Callum Borchers

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1,301 appearances 20 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2022 last heard Jan 2025

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WSJ Your Money Briefing · Take a Sick Day, or Suffer ‘Sick Shaming’ at Work? · 15 Feb 2024 podcast

But you also get the stink eye from workers if you show up contagious because nobody wants to be around the person who's, you know, hacking up a lung at their desk. matched

So for a lot of workers, it feels like a no-win situation. matched

Well, Alberta Johnson, who runs an HR consulting firm, put it to me like this. matched

You have to be unable to speak and unable to function to really make an excuse for yourself and take a sick day. matched

And I thought that was really striking. matched

I mean, she's really plugged in. matched

She works with a lot of small and medium-sized businesses. matched

And look, she says she's guilty of this herself, and she should know better. matched

She says she works at HR, but she recently had a sinus infection and told me that she just kept on chugging really to the point of exhaustion and really just sort of wore herself out and eventually had to take some time off. matched

But it's a hard habit to break. matched

And she said that really seems to be the new standard again, post-pandemic. matched

Unless you're just totally laid out, you should keep on doing that job. matched

Well, this is a tricky question. matched

I mean, sometimes, but you can also run afoul of local sick leave laws if you're not careful. matched

In some cities, New York City, for example, Washington, D.C. matched

is another one. matched

It's actually illegal for managers to ask for doctor's notes after just a brief absence, three days or fewer. matched

If you're going to be gone for a couple of weeks, then it's a different story. matched

The other thing, too, is beyond whatever the policy is, whatever the local laws say, matched

Vanessa Matsis-McCready, who's an employment attorney, pointed out too that really almost anything can be grounds for an employee to go complain to HR. matched

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