Cameron Crowe

And he said, you're meeting David Jones who's aggressively throwing David Bowie at you.

Oh, wow.

I know, I know, I know.

He even, I asked him at one point, I was like, how do you think you're going to die?

Do you think you'll die on stage?

Because Ziggy Stardust, one of his characters, I think was based on somebody who had died on stage.

And he said, no, no, no, I don't think that's going to happen to me.

I think my, I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but he said, I think my death will be an event, something that I manage and produce and make my own statement.

And that is exactly what happened.

Well, he died of cancer at a young age, and he knew he was dying.

He didn't tell anybody except a small group of collaborators.

And he did this album, Black Star, which is his statement about the death that was coming.

And it's profound, and it's managed, and it is amazing.

An opportunity that he did not throw away.

And he also said in one of the songs, you know, I can't give you everything.

So he kept a lot for himself.

I think he found a life where he was in love and living in New York and he loved his family.

And the mirror that I held up to him, Terry, was a glimpse of a time when he...

almost died and wasn't looking after himself and involved in drugs.

And too many of his friends, he said, were drug dealers.