Cameron Herold
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284 appearances
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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You help coach their kind of confidence. they'll go through brick walls for you to take care of your customers. And when your customers feel that much love, you can charge a lot.
I don't focus on being their friend. I focus on caring about them. And that's a very distinct line. I'm not friends with any of my employees, but I care about their home life. I care about their kids. I care about their insecurities. I care about their dreams. I care about their financials. But I have a very fine line between friends and caring. I'm also firm but fair.
So I'm very kind of focused on our goals. I'm focused on our promises. I'm focused on our core values. But I don't cross the line with just hanging out and being their friend. That's a distinction.
Yeah, that's a very entrepreneurial distinction too. Entrepreneurs often care about being liked. And so they don't wanna make the tough decisions. They don't wanna deal with conflict. They don't like firing people. Often entrepreneurs carry the wrong people for too long because they're trying to be liked.
And sometimes they'll then offload that to their COO and they'll have their second command make the tough decisions of their second command fire people.
That is definitely an entrepreneurial kind of downside or weakness that many entrepreneurs have that I've had to coach people through to get them okay with firing people and realizing that just because you gave them five years working for you doesn't mean you owe them the next five.
You know, we really, I've always believed that your A players are your resources, your B players are your workhorses, and the C players have to go to the glue factory. And I think entrepreneurs, but entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs, and here's what's important. The government and the post office are always going to hire your C players, right?
The government will always hire your Cs, the post office will hire your Cs, but entrepreneurs should give more time to their A players. Entrepreneurs should be coaching and developing their A players and not spending all this time with the C players that you should just get rid of. It's the two volleyball players versus six.
If you get rid of your bottom performers and spend your time with your two A playing professional beach volleyball players, your company goes to the moon.
A person who is curious about others. a person who can lead others, a person who can kind of gather the energy around them. So I'm looking for somebody who can get others listening to what they say, who kind of grabs the energy of the room, and then is just curious about the other people to learn about their strengths and their fears and insecurities. So someone who can build that kind of trust.
So I'm looking for that strong leadership. You know, the three core things I look for in entrepreneurs, really strong leadership, really strong goal orientation, and then really strong tenacity. So it's the leadership to lead yourself, to lead others, to lead suppliers, to lead bankers, to lead employees. That's key. The goal orientation of always driving forward, right?
And then that tenacity, that dog-like work ethic to get over, under, around any obstacle put in your path. Those are the three things you need to be good as an entrepreneur.
None of this stuff matters. This is just what we're doing to make money. To remember that we need to enjoy the journey. We're all just walking each other home. Let's have fun along the journey because if you get so focused on this, you forget that at the end of the day, we're all going to end up as a kebab. We're just going to be meat on a stick. Let's enjoy the journey, man.
59. 59.
Well, you mentioned in the middle of the podcast about our friend Steve Sims having cancer. And while I was talking to you, I instantly sent him a message. He's already replied. I've replied to him. I sent another mutual. While I'm being interviewed with you, this interview matters, but not as much as Steve Sims and my relationship with him matters.
So even though I was being interviewed by you, I was allowing myself to care about what really mattered. Yeah, did you tell him you were on with me? I will as soon as we're done. Yeah, there you go, yeah. I'll do a screenshot and I'll share it with him.
Steve would not to be wrong, but yeah, I just sent Steve a screenshot of you and I both. And he said, John's a good lad. So that's what I mean by none of this shit matters, right? This is just what we're doing to make money.
And I think that that's a really important lesson for everybody as an entrepreneur or a leader is that if you care more about your employees, if you care about what they're struggling with, You care about their relationships. You care about their home life. They will go through brick walls for you and build your company, right?
You'll get to the result that you want to get to by caring about people and enjoying the journey with them.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I mean. Yeah. Well, that's one of the reasons why you got to put yourself into these rooms, right? Go invest in yourself, go to these mastermind events, go to the conferences, unplug from your normal network is that, you know, we've heard that out is where the average of the five people you spend the most time with.
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