Camilo Acosta

Yeah, and again, these founders,

It's not that they're perma-assholes.

They are quite charismatic, very friendly people when the moment is right.

And so they know how to turn on the charm when it comes to sales, when it comes to customers, clients, et cetera.

And that's their magic is that they can be both.

Now, when I look at my portfolio and we look at our top companies, top founders, unicorn founders we've backed,

they all have that ability to from one second go ruthless to the next second being like the nicest guy in the world.

And so they know that they, in order to build a massive company, they're going to have to be the nicest guy in the world when they're out selling, when they're out pitching.

But when push comes to shove and there is a moment that requires decisiveness, they're not afraid to pull out the ruthless side of them.

Yep, exactly.

And I think we like to judge, you know, even using the word psychopathic, it's like, oh man,

Do we want psychopathic founders?

But what if that's just simply what it takes to build transformational global companies is some level of

We need them.

Exactly.

Let's talk about what today's

interface model looks like in these computing platforms.

So we primarily use two interfaces.

There's the computer, which we're chatting on a computer right now.

Most knowledge workers sit at a desk looking at a monitor or a laptop.