Cara Santamaria

And then these are the questions.

What's my chance of dying of the condition if I do or don't have the screening?

Right.

And what are other ways to decrease my risk of dying of this condition?

How effective are they?

I think there are ways to position and frame these questions that aren't insulting and that are empowering for the patients.

And it is important to have those conversations for sure.

Isn't it just saying that a human wouldn't know the difference between a machine and a human?

That's all it's a test for.

Well, and that's – I think you're touching on a point that Steve did make, but I think to make it even more explicit –

Even beyond the time and the intentionality argument, A, the operational definition of consciousness is wiggly.

So first, we'd all have to agree on what that actually means.

And B, Dawkins, as you mentioned, is not a subject matter expert on LLMs, but he's also not a subject matter expert on consciousness.

Yes.

He's not a neurologist, a neuroscientist, a psychologist.

He's an evolutionary biologist.

And that's a very specific field to understand cognitive science.

Ultimately, ask the consensus experts in both computer science and LLM and AI, and over here in cognitive science and neuroscience, psychology, neurology.

Those consensus experts do not agree that this is consciousness.

Absolutely.