Carina O’Brien

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1,722 appearances 9 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 4 Aug

Carina O’Brien’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Working Mumma · You're Not Less Ambitious. The World Around You Just Hasn't Caught Up Yet With Kat Francis · 9 Jun 2026 podcast

That's what you're going to be focused in on and you're not really wanting a career. matched

You'll have a job just to get some money and you don't want to climb the ladder. matched

And look, it's not all necessarily always about climbing the ladder. matched

It's also about maybe sometimes doing, as what you said earlier, about doing fulfilling work and that ambition shows up in different ways. matched

As you're saying, our values change, our identity changes thanks to matrescence. matched

There's so much that is going on that matched

you know, it naturally, ambition is not necessarily linear either. matched

Yes, certainly. matched

It's the old narrative around the motherhood penalty and then the fatherhood bonus. matched

Yes. matched

That graph as the father's income goes up and gets this big bonus once they then have children because they're like, oh, right, he's got to care for a family and things like that, whereas then matched

There's the motherhood penalty really around, probably also correlates as well around with the perception of ambition. matched

Oh, she's not there showing up for kids and things like that. matched

And actually penalize without actually, as you were saying earlier, having that conversation to say, what is it that you want? matched

How would you like to show up? matched

And there's a lot of assumptions made because yeah, unfortunately the same thing I know, you know, around genders, it is unfortunately different at times. matched

What can we do in that situation? matched

Because I have lost count how many conversations I've had to that exact script. matched

Great question. matched

Women that may be thinking, oh, look, we need to take a back seat. matched

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