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Carl George

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
260 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

They're like, oh, these guys showed up with the number 8 on a sticker, and they told us we can't say it? That's so stupid. Like, why do we even have this problem?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

They're like, oh, these guys showed up with the number 8 on a sticker, and they told us we can't say it? That's so stupid. Like, why do we even have this problem?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

I missed that joke. Big company, inner things, whatever. Weird things. The next version's 10. Juicy stuff. Go. So RHEL's on a three-year major version cycle now, six-month minor version cycle. It'll be a little more reliable. It used to be kind of hit or miss, and one of the feedback we got from customers was bringing it back to Ubuntu.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

I missed that joke. Big company, inner things, whatever. Weird things. The next version's 10. Juicy stuff. Go. So RHEL's on a three-year major version cycle now, six-month minor version cycle. It'll be a little more reliable. It used to be kind of hit or miss, and one of the feedback we got from customers was bringing it back to Ubuntu.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

They have their schedule where they're like, yeah, we're publishing this month. You can count on it. And a lot of customers really value that. So eventually, version 8 was when they adopted that in 2019. So three-year cycles, you can see that RHEL 9 came out in 2021. Sorry, 2022. So 2025 is when RHEL 10 is going to come out.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

They have their schedule where they're like, yeah, we're publishing this month. You can count on it. And a lot of customers really value that. So eventually, version 8 was when they adopted that in 2019. So three-year cycles, you can see that RHEL 9 came out in 2021. Sorry, 2022. So 2025 is when RHEL 10 is going to come out.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

We can't officially say dates, but there's an event in 2025 in the spring that Red Hat puts on that might make sense for there to be product announcements at. Anyone can figure that out just by looking at public websites. It's not that hard. Not that that would be the exact day, but probably pretty close. It's a good time frame to expect it. CentOS Stream 10 has already branched off from Fedora.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

We can't officially say dates, but there's an event in 2025 in the spring that Red Hat puts on that might make sense for there to be product announcements at. Anyone can figure that out just by looking at public websites. It's not that hard. Not that that would be the exact day, but probably pretty close. It's a good time frame to expect it. CentOS Stream 10 has already branched off from Fedora.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

It's getting that initial productization to become, to stabilization, to become RHEL eventually. It's in a state now where you can get it and install it today, but we haven't announced it as, you know, ready's a weird word,

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

It's getting that initial productization to become, to stabilization, to become RHEL eventually. It's in a state now where you can get it and install it today, but we haven't announced it as, you know, ready's a weird word,

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

I think we usually use launched or released, but there's going to be a launch announcement or release announcement for CentOS Stream 10 pretty soon because it's getting to the point now, it's not that high pace of stabilization. It is, okay, well, we basically have all the features we want.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

I think we usually use launched or released, but there's going to be a launch announcement or release announcement for CentOS Stream 10 pretty soon because it's getting to the point now, it's not that high pace of stabilization. It is, okay, well, we basically have all the features we want.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

We might make a few more changes before it gets released as RHEL 10, but it's basically stabilized, and this is what you can expect RHEL 10.0 to be whenever it comes out next year. So we're going to have that announcement pretty soon, probably next month or the month after, where we announce CentOS Stream 10 is here. You can use it now. It's pretty good. We like it.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

We might make a few more changes before it gets released as RHEL 10, but it's basically stabilized, and this is what you can expect RHEL 10.0 to be whenever it comes out next year. So we're going to have that announcement pretty soon, probably next month or the month after, where we announce CentOS Stream 10 is here. You can use it now. It's pretty good. We like it.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Also, Eppleton, the thing that I work on directly, we're going to announce that about the same time. Usually when we've announced them separately, we usually have the feedback that, well, why would you announce, you know, If we announce one, immediately the question is, well, I want the other one to use them together. I want those extra packages, and I want the base operating system.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Also, Eppleton, the thing that I work on directly, we're going to announce that about the same time. Usually when we've announced them separately, we usually have the feedback that, well, why would you announce, you know, If we announce one, immediately the question is, well, I want the other one to use them together. I want those extra packages, and I want the base operating system.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

They're useless without each other and a lot of people's opinions. So we're going to do kind of a joint announcement probably the same day or the same week where we say, yep, Apple 10 is here. We've got all these extra things you can add. The community has been building them for the last few months, and we've had the infrastructure online. But we're doing like a flag day, like here it is.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

They're useless without each other and a lot of people's opinions. So we're going to do kind of a joint announcement probably the same day or the same week where we say, yep, Apple 10 is here. We've got all these extra things you can add. The community has been building them for the last few months, and we've had the infrastructure online. But we're doing like a flag day, like here it is.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

It's as ready as it will be, you know. It's the thing, do we say it's ready at 2,000 packages? Do we say it's ready at 3,000? We're going to keep adding stuff, and even after we announce it, it doesn't stop growing. So we've got those things coming up. And timeline-wise, you can look at it as that's about six months before the RHEL 10 launch.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY โ€” Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

It's as ready as it will be, you know. It's the thing, do we say it's ready at 2,000 packages? Do we say it's ready at 3,000? We're going to keep adding stuff, and even after we announce it, it doesn't stop growing. So we've got those things coming up. And timeline-wise, you can look at it as that's about six months before the RHEL 10 launch.