Carl George

Yeah, so spring of 2025 is when RHEL 10 is going to be coming out. And then we're about a little bit more than six months before that right now. We're getting all this stuff buttoned up to say, yeah, CentOS Stream 10 is here. You can use it. It's a major version, stable operating system. It doesn't have minor versions, but it's going to be maintained for five and a half years. It's very RHEL-like.

Yeah, so spring of 2025 is when RHEL 10 is going to be coming out. And then we're about a little bit more than six months before that right now. We're getting all this stuff buttoned up to say, yeah, CentOS Stream 10 is here. You can use it. It's a major version, stable operating system. It doesn't have minor versions, but it's going to be maintained for five and a half years. It's very RHEL-like.

You can add all of these Apple packages we've been working on and use it right now, and it'll be good to go. I love it. That's the good stuff coming up.

You can add all of these Apple packages we've been working on and use it right now, and it'll be good to go. I love it. That's the good stuff coming up.

Okay. That is just the mentality of it. It's only packages that you can't get in the base operating system. So I kind of mentioned that there's like 60-something thousand packages in Fedora, and only about 10% of those go into CentOS and then eventually go into RHEL. Everything else in Fedora that isn't that 10% is eligible to go into Apple. So, like, say I maintain, like, the Caddy web server.

Okay. That is just the mentality of it. It's only packages that you can't get in the base operating system. So I kind of mentioned that there's like 60-something thousand packages in Fedora, and only about 10% of those go into CentOS and then eventually go into RHEL. Everything else in Fedora that isn't that 10% is eligible to go into Apple. So, like, say I maintain, like, the Caddy web server.

I maintain that package in Fedora, and I also maintain it in Apple branches. Up to date, I haven't seen anyone say, like, we need to put Caddy into RHEL. We have customers asking for Caddy. Maybe that changes in the future. But for now, I maintain it in Fedora, and I put it in the Apple branches for each release, Apple 7, Apple 8, Apple 9, and Apple 10 now.

I maintain that package in Fedora, and I also maintain it in Apple branches. Up to date, I haven't seen anyone say, like, we need to put Caddy into RHEL. We have customers asking for Caddy. Maybe that changes in the future. But for now, I maintain it in Fedora, and I put it in the Apple branches for each release, Apple 7, Apple 8, Apple 9, and Apple 10 now.

Put it in there so people can use it on that RHEL release or that CentOS release or any of the other RHEL-like things that are out there. They use it there, but it's not a RHEL package. It's not maintained by Red Hat. You can't file a support case for it. So that's what the extra in the name is for. It's only additional things.

Put it in there so people can use it on that RHEL release or that CentOS release or any of the other RHEL-like things that are out there. They use it there, but it's not a RHEL package. It's not maintained by Red Hat. You can't file a support case for it. So that's what the extra in the name is for. It's only additional things.

If, for example, Caddy, if Red Hat decided to add that into RHEL, into the product, it would then become ineligible for Apple, and we'd retire it from there, and instead of getting it from the community repo, you'd get it from the main repos. Gotcha. Does that help clear that up?

If, for example, Caddy, if Red Hat decided to add that into RHEL, into the product, it would then become ineligible for Apple, and we'd retire it from there, and instead of getting it from the community repo, you'd get it from the main repos. Gotcha. Does that help clear that up?

I'm not going to argue with that point.

I'm not going to argue with that point.

They're trading on the RHEL brand.

They're trading on the RHEL brand.

Thanks, Carl.

Thanks, Carl.

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