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Carl Hennigan

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

So let's go back to the swine flu pandemic.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

It started in Mexico with a case fatality rate, as I remember, at about 10%.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

Everybody panicked.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

It dropped and dropped.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

The lowest bound of the estimate by the end of the outbreak was 1%.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

And then it dropped again to 0.01%.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

And then eventually, I think it was Liam Donaldson at the time, did a report and said actually the fatality rate was 0.02% when he actually looked in the light of day.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

It is very hard in the midst of a pandemic to understand what's going on.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

But what makes this virus particularly sneaky and difficult to understand is two things.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

There seems to be a lot of people with mild disease or asymptomatics.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

And the reports say somewhere between 5% and 80%.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

How's that for a precise estimate?

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

But that's what they're saying.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

That's over 20 reports now say, here's a proportion of asymptomatic.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

So they won't be tested.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

They won't present with symptoms.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

And so they won't be counted in the case fatality rate.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

So we've discussed this before, trying to estimate what's called the infection fatality rate.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

What's the rate of death in all those with the infection?

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

Now, it's interestingly, in Germany, they've just done this.