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Carol Leonnig

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Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

In the others, he said, we have to triage to this.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

We have to get moving.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

His motivation was, as he articulated it to many people we interviewed, was we can't let the American public judge.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

sit out there with these incredible allegations of a potential coup, of a president potentially stoking violence to overturn a free and fair election.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

We can't let that wither out there in the countryside without resolving it in a fair court.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And he also felt that it was really important for Donald Trump to not have those allegations laying out there.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And so he was moving at a pace I have actually never seen in any DOJ prosecution of a complex case, much less one involving a former president.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

But not typically for a person who's not an actually named candidate.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

No, it turns out to be a weapon that Donald Trump uses very effectively against the Justice Department and against Jack Smith.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And during this time, Garland calls him and says, would you take the job if I offer it to you tomorrow?

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Not realizing how damaged, how devastated really physically Jack Smith is.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And there's a question about whether or not Jack can take the oath of office.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

under all these painkillers he's taking.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And he decides on his own to dismiss himself from the hospital against medical advice and stops taking the medication so he can properly take the oath without any question about his faculties.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

He goes on to push his team with incredible rigor to bring these cases.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

But back to your other point about this isn't a good look,

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

It ends up being really terrible because even though Jack Smith and his team are sprinting to make decisions and to bring the cases they think are justified, Donald Trump is falsely claiming that the only reason he's being prosecuted now in 2023 with a trial in 2024 is because a left-wing radical DOJ wants to help Biden block him from winning reelection.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

You know, it's such a critical moment.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And I think I'd like to take you into a couple of the rooms where it happened here.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Because the Supreme Court, first off, immediately accelerates one case and postpones another.