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Carol Leonnig

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Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

There is this incredible group of investigators on the congressional team, mostly former prosecutors, a few lawyers who Hafe hires to help him figure out what happened.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And the pace at which they are moving is devastatingly fast.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

especially compared to the Department of Justice.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

It's like the little U.S.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Attorney's Office that could.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Tim Heafey, who is the chief counsel, is a former U.S.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

attorney with the Department of Justice.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

So his goal all along was, let's treat this like a real investigation.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Let's get to the facts.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And he actually has a conversation with Benny Thompson before he takes the job where he goes, I'm not going to be comfortable if politics is going to influence the end results.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

I want our facts to drive the day.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

But in the end, those clients, the lawmakers, they do not want to turn over the goods.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And they stiff arm the Department of Justice, which now is trying to play catch up.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

You know, Dave, Merrick Garland, the attorney general, really set the tone on this, which was, we're not doing anything because there's an election coming up.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And we're not motivated or girded or pressed by an election calendar and the fact that Donald Trump is readying himself and making a lot of noise about running for reelection.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Now, inside, Aaron and I learned that there were prosecutors worried about how much time was left on the clock.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And this is a great moment to sort of compare Garland and the special counsel he would end up picking later when Trump really did announce that he was going to run for re-election in November of 2022, because Jack Smith, that special counsel, said literally within the first week of meeting his new team, he said,

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

We got to set a calendar.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

How about in three months we decide whether or not we can indict?

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

That was on the classified documents case.