Carol Murray

So I think it was more faith in myself.

And it was faith in other things.

But played a part of the role in terms of that, yeah, I would pray for things.

And I know a lot of people pray for me.

Well, I don't usually get too much time.

Like I usually have 45 minutes and my story can be really long and sometimes I shorten it for that.

But a lot of times afterwards, I have one-on-one conversations because if I'm speaking in the morning, I'll go to your conference at lunch and just sit at the table and people are shocked.

Um, so a lot of people have a lot of questions for me, but really where the follow-up comes personally is I get a lot of people on social media.

I do a little bit on social media.

Um, I, or they'll find, they'll go to my website and write me and people will ask me for conversations.

They'll say, I am going through this.

So the first thing I would do, I would say is I would listen.

And sometimes people will say this in a crowd too in the question.

So what I tell them is important to listen.

It's important to have empathy.

It's important to know that you can't be in someone else's shoes.

Even if you're the same size, everybody molds their shoes differently.

Yeah.

And I always go back to values that you've got to have the right values.

That's a lesson that I say over and over.