Carole Cadwalladr

Actually, the one person who was put through the ringer during all of this was you.

Actually, the one person who was put through the ringer during all of this was you.

You were put on trial for discovering this very true thing, and they really tried to destroy you.

You were put on trial for discovering this very true thing, and they really tried to destroy you.

I hate that. Yeah. I'm a Brexiteer, you're a Brexiteer.

I hate that. Yeah. I'm a Brexiteer, you're a Brexiteer.

What, are you kidding me? I'm in America. We don't care what happens there. No, but it is. So but you were on the cusp of does that story now with Cambridge Analytica sort of siphoning the data from Facebook, weaponizing what would get people agitated and trying to influence those elections? Does that almost seem quaint by today's standards?

What, are you kidding me? I'm in America. We don't care what happens there. No, but it is. So but you were on the cusp of does that story now with Cambridge Analytica sort of siphoning the data from Facebook, weaponizing what would get people agitated and trying to influence those elections? Does that almost seem quaint by today's standards?

Was the change of that, because there is a sense, you think of that sort of in the capitalist sense or the consumerist sense, like if I'll be talking to my wife about a certain something and then the very next thing on Instagram is an advertisement for that very thing. And you think, oh, they've weaponized what we're interested in to get us to buy things.

Was the change of that, because there is a sense, you think of that sort of in the capitalist sense or the consumerist sense, like if I'll be talking to my wife about a certain something and then the very next thing on Instagram is an advertisement for that very thing. And you think, oh, they've weaponized what we're interested in to get us to buy things.

But this is a very different scenario in that they've weaponized it to defang democratic processes.

But this is a very different scenario in that they've weaponized it to defang democratic processes.

But on the plus side... On the plus side. So when you hear about that from Palantir, is that... Are you describing something generally, or are you describing exact... Like, Palantir is getting all of our data. I mean, that was what they announced.

But on the plus side... On the plus side. So when you hear about that from Palantir, is that... Are you describing something generally, or are you describing exact... Like, Palantir is getting all of our data. I mean, that was what they announced.

applying ai now to this database and what is the ai's purpose is it to sift through the data to target you for messaging or is it also to prevent you from accessing government programs

applying ai now to this database and what is the ai's purpose is it to sift through the data to target you for messaging or is it also to prevent you from accessing government programs

And there's no regulation on this, by the way.

And there's no regulation on this, by the way.

Normally, we're quite prompt with this type of activity. I'll go even further. In the big, beautiful bill, there is a segment of that that says, for the next 10 years, they are not allowed to legislate or regulate AI in any way, shape, or form. It is prohibited by an act of Congress if this goes through. What does that do to this?

Normally, we're quite prompt with this type of activity. I'll go even further. In the big, beautiful bill, there is a segment of that that says, for the next 10 years, they are not allowed to legislate or regulate AI in any way, shape, or form. It is prohibited by an act of Congress if this goes through. What does that do to this?