Carole Cadwalladr

And do you see, is it different in the EU? Do they have a sense of the peril of this, and they're acting more robustly? Is this something that you see in the United States as the Wild West? Who is keeping an eye on this, and can we get our own AI to keep an eye on their AI? LAUGHTER

And do you see, is it different in the EU? Do they have a sense of the peril of this, and they're acting more robustly? Is this something that you see in the United States as the Wild West? Who is keeping an eye on this, and can we get our own AI to keep an eye on their AI? LAUGHTER

the Stasi or this is the KGB or this is the CIA. Look, this country is rife with examples of government, MKUltra and FBI surveillance on Martin Luther King and John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. You know, we are not unfamiliar with those kinds of police state activities Is this of a different piece? Is it just that it's more opaque? Is it more efficient at doing it?

the Stasi or this is the KGB or this is the CIA. Look, this country is rife with examples of government, MKUltra and FBI surveillance on Martin Luther King and John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. You know, we are not unfamiliar with those kinds of police state activities Is this of a different piece? Is it just that it's more opaque? Is it more efficient at doing it?

Are we seeing something really different than we've seen?

Are we seeing something really different than we've seen?

And used for predictive purposes as well.

And used for predictive purposes as well.

I don't use that. What are you saying? I do my own work. What are you saying? That these questions I just plugged into ChatGPT?

I don't use that. What are you saying? I do my own work. What are you saying? That these questions I just plugged into ChatGPT?

That, boy, did you just nail, I think, such a crucial point there. Beyond even the more sort of dystopian visions of where they're going to be taking this is the practical application of a technology that is wildly fallible. That is something that, you know, they just put out the Maha report, and apparently there's seven studies in it that don't exist.

That, boy, did you just nail, I think, such a crucial point there. Beyond even the more sort of dystopian visions of where they're going to be taking this is the practical application of a technology that is wildly fallible. That is something that, you know, they just put out the Maha report, and apparently there's seven studies in it that don't exist.

And nobody thought, like, oh, we should probably check that.

And nobody thought, like, oh, we should probably check that.

Right. To try and contact. And it won't be anybody. It'll just be for this press one. But nobody will ever come on. Exactly.

Right. To try and contact. And it won't be anybody. It'll just be for this press one. But nobody will ever come on. Exactly.

And not transparent in any way by removing the people.

And not transparent in any way by removing the people.

So you've been looking at this for many years. You have faced a great deal of personal repercussion for doing this. You continue to push on it. Is there anything that you've seen? within this move that makes you feel like we have the ability to in any way slow the inevitability of it?

So you've been looking at this for many years. You have faced a great deal of personal repercussion for doing this. You continue to push on it. Is there anything that you've seen? within this move that makes you feel like we have the ability to in any way slow the inevitability of it?