Caroline Fraser

And this was happening.

You know, women were disappearing from dorm rooms or their rooms at University of Washington.

They were disappearing off the street.

And then they weren't seen again for weeks, for months.

You know, in the July of 1974, I was 13.

And on a really hot Sunday afternoon in 1974, two women disappeared from a crowded beach at Lake Sammamish, which was about 10 minutes from my house.

And so having had that experience of being around at that time, it was incredibly, you know...

It was both really disturbing, but also I just really wanted to understand what was happening.

Yeah, I never really wanted to write a book that was just about serial killers.

I mean, I think that's been done.

Lots of people have done that and done a good job.

I mean, Ann Rule, the woman who wrote the first book about Ted Bundy, who knew Ted Bundy.

Yes, she worked with him at a rape crisis clinic in Seattle.

Wow.

He was very interested in doing research on rape.

Because, of course, he was something of an expert, so...

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was why that book was such a phenomenon because she knew him before anybody had identified, you know, anything in him.

She liked him.