Caroline Hyde / Ed Ludlow

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Bloomberg Tech · Tech Stocks Rally on the Back of Ceasefire Deal · 8 Apr 2026 podcast

Bloomberg cybersecurity reporter Margie Murphy is with us.

Margie, yesterday, just after this news hit, I was on stage with Mike Krieger, who co-leads the labs at Anthropic, and he basically explained Mephos at the model level, incredibly powerful.

relative to what's gone before it.

And they don't know if they'll release it generally.

That was a big question.

So they have this set of limited technology companies and one capability is cyber.

What do we need to know about the kind of rollout and what on earth these companies will do with it?

Correct.

So they created this model, realized it was incredibly powerful and really, really good at finding bugs and flaws in a lot of open source software that's out there.

Things that's been around for decades and that companies, you know, all the apps and services we use are dependent on.

And they realized that not only could their model find these bugs, it could automatically exploit them.

And so their concern was if we let that out into the general public, that could be abused in some way.

So we'll do a kind of limited release, get in the people who might be most affected by it, and we'll allow them to play around, find some of those bugs, fix them, and then feed back.

And then they'll figure out from there what they're going to do about a general release.

I mean, it's interesting.

There's cyber companies like Palo Alto Networks.

There's also potential competitors to Anthropic's own AI that are using it.

What's interesting is a competitor to OpenAI had already as well sort of piloted the idea of getting its technology into the hands of defenders before the main public.

How much is this something writ large that everyone has to think about?

Yeah, you're right.

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