Carrie Johnson

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The NPR Politics Podcast · Should all babies born in the United States be citizens? · 31 Mar 2026 podcast

He said U.S.

citizenship is a priceless gift.

He talked about the 14th Amendment and it's guaranteed that people born or naturalized in the U.S.

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens.

And he talked about how that amendment basically

overturned the Dred Scott decision and the idea that enslaved people who are newly freed and their children should become American citizens was like basically the whole intent of the 14th Amendment.

But he cast some doubt or cast a shadow over people who were in the U.S.

either illegally or on a short-term status like with work visas or student visas or travel that they had overstayed.

Yeah.

For many, many, many decades, birthright citizenship has been taken as a given kind of a foundational principle.

And yet over the last several years, people like John Eastman, a lawyer who helped

President Trump, basically with the legal theory that Trump used to try to overturn the results of the 2020 election, John Eastman and some other scholars along those lines have been really advancing a reimagining of the 14th Amendment and this concept of birthright.

And so they've been talking kind of in the wilderness.

Now the Supreme Court is taking this seriously.

And it's really a major, major issue.

Right.

The ACLU and a number of groups have challenged this executive order.

They basically argue that if you look to the history, the text of the 14th Amendment, and the American legal tradition, they win on all of those counts.

I listened to a call last week that included Cody Wofsey from the ACLU.

Here's what he had to say.

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