Carter Sherman

From the court.

It feels like the court is trying to punish people.

If it becomes no longer possible for abortion providers to mail abortion pills, what patients, are there particular groups of patients that you're most worried about?

One of the things that was most interesting to me about the ruling from the Supreme Court was actually the dissent that Justice Samuel Alito wrote.

And he says that at the heart of this case over Mifepristone is really, quote, the perpetration of a scheme to undermine our decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, which is, of course, the case that overturned Roe v. Wade.

And what Alito is talking about is the existence of shield laws, which are these laws, as you know, that have been passed in states like New York and California and Massachusetts that seek to protect abortion providers from out-of-state prosecutions, even in cases where the providers are mailing pills across state lines into states that ban abortion.

The Massachusetts shield law is, of course, what makes the map possible.

When you saw Alito's dissent, when you saw that he is so skeptical of shield laws, what did you think?

What did you make of that decision?

We can't anticipate that this is going to happen, but really, cases like this have real implications for you as a person and other providers as individuals.

At least two doctors have so far been indicted for allegedly shipping abortion pills across state lines into states that ban abortion.

neither of those doctors have actually been apprehended because they're staying out of Louisiana, which is the state that indicted them.

But you could be next.

What kind of precautions do you take to protect yourself?

Why don't you drive a car in states outside of Massachusetts?

If you don't...

go to red states, do you feel like your life has been curtailed at all?

Are you missing out on things?

But that does make me sad.

I mean, I feel like what you're doing is it's kind of radical, like it is a risk.