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Cas Holman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
772 total appearances

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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

And then there have been studies that used college students instead of rats.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

Basically the same thing.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

A little bit less extreme and not studying the neocortex development in these cases, thankfully.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

But similarly, college students, there was one study by Alice Eisen who put students in a room for five minutes with nothing.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

You're just going to sit in the desk for five minutes.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

And then in the meantime, another group of students had music and another group of students had music and puzzles.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

And so those three groups went in and they all did the exact same test in the same way.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

And the group with nothing did 15% less well than the group that had music.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

Group with music universally did 15% more problem solving.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

And then the group that had music and toys did like 40% better than all of the groups.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

These numbers are going to be absolutely wrong.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

They're placeholders.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

And it's in the book.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

And once I write it down, I'm like, good, now it's there.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

I can forget it forever.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

But this is just to say universally, just playing with a toy before you go in to solve a problem made you a better problem solver.

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Cas Holman (on being playful)

So there's just time and time again, we learn ways that play not just helps us have the will to live, but it helps us be more resilient and healthier.