Casey Liss

Yeah, it really is the thing about the shell thing because it's like, just to give one example, one of the things I use Quicksilver for is mounting volumes. because the finder sucks so bad that mounting them through the finder is like pulling teeth. But if I can hit command space and type two letters and it returned, it's so much faster.

When you change shells, one of the things you have to quote-unquote port is, oh, I probably built up many aliases that I use in my shell. And the aliases themselves are fine. It's just something you type and a different thing happens. But if you have complicated aliases, porting those aliases to a new shell...

When you change shells, one of the things you have to quote-unquote port is, oh, I probably built up many aliases that I use in my shell. And the aliases themselves are fine. It's just something you type and a different thing happens. But if you have complicated aliases, porting those aliases to a new shell...

at minimum requires you learning the syntax to declare an alias in the shelf it's different than yours but you might also have to quote things differently to capture arguments or the second argument here or whatever or which things need to be escaped with double backslash versus single back like stuff like that makes me think about what i had to do with alfred to do the simple thing which alfred is 100 capable of but how long did it take me to figure out how to make alfred

at minimum requires you learning the syntax to declare an alias in the shelf it's different than yours but you might also have to quote things differently to capture arguments or the second argument here or whatever or which things need to be escaped with double backslash versus single back like stuff like that makes me think about what i had to do with alfred to do the simple thing which alfred is 100 capable of but how long did it take me to figure out how to make alfred

mount a volume, a password-protected volume in response to a keyboard sequence, and it took me an embarrassingly long time. So yeah, like that. I mean, again, I'm saved by the fact that I don't do much with Quicksilver, so I didn't have to port too many things. But if I had to port all my aliases, and honestly, I don't even like other shells that much either. But anyway, just do not use TC.

mount a volume, a password-protected volume in response to a keyboard sequence, and it took me an embarrassingly long time. So yeah, like that. I mean, again, I'm saved by the fact that I don't do much with Quicksilver, so I didn't have to port too many things. But if I had to port all my aliases, and honestly, I don't even like other shells that much either. But anyway, just do not use TC.

Don't let your children use TCSH. Let them use Bash or Phish or ZSH or something more modern. But it seems like at this point, I'm just going to die using TCSH.

Don't let your children use TCSH. Let them use Bash or Phish or ZSH or something more modern. But it seems like at this point, I'm just going to die using TCSH.

I'm sure I have been more upset with you, John, probably with regard to something car related and you're ridiculous.

I'm sure I have been more upset with you, John, probably with regard to something car related and you're ridiculous.

I don't know if I'd go that far. It was funny though. So after we recorded, it was either yesterday afternoon or perhaps this morning, I was thinking about how maybe we should change the rules. And very briefly, the rules for the tier lists are all three of us have to reach an agreement if something is going to be S tier. And remember, it's S is the best, then A, B, C, D, F.

I don't know if I'd go that far. It was funny though. So after we recorded, it was either yesterday afternoon or perhaps this morning, I was thinking about how maybe we should change the rules. And very briefly, the rules for the tier lists are all three of us have to reach an agreement if something is going to be S tier. And remember, it's S is the best, then A, B, C, D, F.

And for something to go from A to S, the rule has been we absolutely, all three of us, must agree. And this has caused some amount of problems in the past. I think I do mostly concur.

And for something to go from A to S, the rule has been we absolutely, all three of us, must agree. And this has caused some amount of problems in the past. I think I do mostly concur.

I don't think that's wise.

I don't think that's wise.

i mean i understand the logic there i don't know if i agree and it increases the value of s and you know the d value of f i guess but i was thinking yesterday or today that all of a sudden all of connected's absolutely preposterous rules suddenly they're starting to make ever so slightly more sense you can't just you can't just end up chasing your tail and changing the rules all the time when you don't like how things go you know

i mean i understand the logic there i don't know if i agree and it increases the value of s and you know the d value of f i guess but i was thinking yesterday or today that all of a sudden all of connected's absolutely preposterous rules suddenly they're starting to make ever so slightly more sense you can't just you can't just end up chasing your tail and changing the rules all the time when you don't like how things go you know

But yes, so we should probably specify what the heck we're talking about. So yeah, we said it was another tier list members episode, but we were ranking storage medium, or storage media, if you will. Storage media, yes. Yeah, and we were ranking all sorts of storage media. So I had been the...