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Casey Newton

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

It's really this topic is so interesting to me because do you remember like when I went to that prediction markets conference and like, you know, I'm not a guy who likes to do sort of like remember when I saw Green Day at the corner bar and they were playing for 16 people and, you know, look out.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

But like I do feel like I saw the equivalent of Green Day playing the corner bar.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

Like the people who were interested in prediction markets several years ago were like these

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

absolute like nerds in the Bay Area who were sort of involved in the kind of play money prediction markets.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

They were not like businesses that had like billions of dollars.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

It was like this very niche academic interest.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

And I remember going to that and feeling like,

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

I'm not sure whether this should be legal or not, but if it ever is, like I imagine this is just going to become like a total casino.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

And I remember arguing with someone there about insider trading.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

And this person who was one of like the people who were sort of originators of this movement were like saying that insider trading is good.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

in a prediction market.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

You want insiders to be trading on these markets because that produces better information.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

And the point of prediction markets is to produce better information.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

And so if you have members of Bad Bunny's entourage betting on the Super Bowl or you have people betting on military operations that they're actively involved in, that is actually a net good because

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

then we're more likely as a society to know that something is going down in Venezuela or something is happening at the Super Bowl.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

And I just remember feeling like that is a beautiful theoretical construct that has zero chance of surviving contact with the real world.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

And as it turns out, it didn't survive contact with the real world.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

I mean, I just think this is one where we just need a new way of regulating these.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

Like right now, these companies are self-regulating.

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Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School

You know, Kalshi has said we don't allow insider trading.