Casey Newton

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It's priceless.

You can't put a price tag on that.

Priceless.

When we come back, a Stern talking to from Joanna Stern, author of I Am Not a Robot.

Yes, former Hart Fork guest.

Yeah, so I would put her book in this sort of tradition of like the immersive journalism genre where you just explore something by just going so deep into it that it sort of takes over your life for a period of a year or so.

She did that with AI.

She has been spending the past year using AI to do, as she puts it, pretty much everything in her life.

As a doctor, as a dentist, for meal planning, editing her book, writing bedtime stories for her child, even some sort of romantic entanglements that we'll get into with her.

But I thought it was just a really fun and interesting book.

Obviously, Joanna is a legend.

And I think it's really a good thing that people are writing about the experience of using this technology as a consumer and a journalist rather than just like the companies that are making it.

Yes, this is a strange bi-coastal taping for us.

He's jaw-maxing.

Casey from camp.

I want to put a pin in the AI relationships that you had because your book is so much bigger than just the social and relational side of AI.

You spent a year doing all kinds of things with AI, outsourcing everything you could, writing in Waymos.