Casey O'Brien

No, there's a few of these murders that I feel like we'll never do. And we've talked about it. This is one of them. The speed box. Toy Box Killer, the Speed Freak Killers, and then Charles Ng, I feel like we'll never do. Just because like, you read it. And it's just, there's just, it's just an empty pit of fucking horribleness.

No, there's a few of these murders that I feel like we'll never do. And we've talked about it. This is one of them. The speed box. Toy Box Killer, the Speed Freak Killers, and then Charles Ng, I feel like we'll never do. Just because like, you read it. And it's just, there's just, it's just an empty pit of fucking horribleness.

Especially in a quarantine, for example. Right. Right. Which we were in for quite a while, if I remember correctly. We were in for quite a while. Real quick, before we get into your story, we did mention Marissa Hargitay's nonprofit. It's still going on. It's called the Joyful Heart Foundation.

Especially in a quarantine, for example. Right. Right. Which we were in for quite a while, if I remember correctly. We were in for quite a while. Real quick, before we get into your story, we did mention Marissa Hargitay's nonprofit. It's still going on. It's called the Joyful Heart Foundation.

And since 2004, Joyful Heart has been a leading national organization with a mission to transform society's response to sexual assault. domestic violence, and child abuse, support survivors' healing, and end this violence forever.

And since 2004, Joyful Heart has been a leading national organization with a mission to transform society's response to sexual assault. domestic violence, and child abuse, support survivors' healing, and end this violence forever.

Yeah. And hey, while we're here, let's donate 10 grand to the Joyful Heart Foundation. Love it. Great idea. Cool. How do you get these ideas? It's just, they just come into my mind. I don't even know how. Speaking of ideas coming from nowhere, let's listen to your epic story. This is like a classic. Karen telling the story of John List.

Yeah. And hey, while we're here, let's donate 10 grand to the Joyful Heart Foundation. Love it. Great idea. Cool. How do you get these ideas? It's just, they just come into my mind. I don't even know how. Speaking of ideas coming from nowhere, let's listen to your epic story. This is like a classic. Karen telling the story of John List.

So they look like any family. Oh my God. I just picture her at like a party and she's just drunk and like, but she looks amazing. Yes. I love it.

So they look like any family. Oh my God. I just picture her at like a party and she's just drunk and like, but she looks amazing. Yes. I love it.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh my God. Karen, that was the best. That was what I was looking for. Because I love food details.

Oh my God. Karen, that was the best. That was what I was looking for. Because I love food details.

No, that was beautiful.

No, that was beautiful.

Yeah. Or pickles. Or you're just going to double down.

Yeah. Or pickles. Or you're just going to double down.

Yeah. But I always, you know me and the starches. Oh, right. Yeah. Well, sure. Everyone can start, but you just don't keep them in your house. I don't eat them all. That's right. I mean, not you. One. One.

Yeah. But I always, you know me and the starches. Oh, right. Yeah. Well, sure. Everyone can start, but you just don't keep them in your house. I don't eat them all. That's right. I mean, not you. One. One.