Cassie McCullagh

I think that's not uncommon.

Yeah.

In fairness.

That's incredible.

Yeah, look, we've had this discussion numerous times on the bookshelf.

And I think, I mean, actually this last book that we were just talking about, the Amitaj Ghosh book, Ghost Eye, it was published two days ago.

So unusually for us, Kate, I did actually have a listen to the audio book and it was good.

It was a very different, it was more immersive actually than reading it.

It was good.

Which would be fantastic.

Actually, there's probably an app for that.

Oh, come on, make sure there's a hat tip to Prince in there as well.

But look, I think the thing for me is some authors are good at this and others aren't, and that's no... We're not dissing you.

Yes.

And actors are, I think, really the best at it.

Absolutely.

There's an Australian guy called Humphrey Bower, who I've talked about before.

He's read a lot of the Patrick White.

He's brilliant, absolutely brilliant West Australian guy.

Scarlett Johansson, I listened to her version of Anna Karenina, which was beautiful.