Cassie McCullagh

So it's called Sororicidal.

It's by Edwina Preston and it is published by Picador.

What do you call it when birds, like, pre-masticate food for their chicks?

Yeah.

Well, the reason I'm asking is because that's kind of like what we do here.

We kind of pre-masticate these books and then regurgitate them into the listener's open beak.

Yeah, so that's the bookshelf and it's on ABC Radio National each week.

We've been called many things, but never that.

So a first here today.

On air, on ABC Listen, on your podcast, System of Choice.

I'm Cassie McCullough.

Kate Evans is here as always.

And our guests, novelist Madeline Gray and musician and performer Tim Rogers.

And now we're turning to the latest from English writer Gwendolyn Riley.

The name Gwendolyn always makes me want to say it in an Oscar Wilde voice.

Lady Gwendolyn Fairfax.

Yeah.

who is one of the eight writers to be awarded $175,000 by the International Wyndham Campbell Prize.

Well, while we're talking about that prize, Cassie.

Yes, and famously he is the force behind counting and cracking the phenomenal stage success.