Cate

But what about Carly who's not going to have a present for the first – Especially when adoption is supposed to be centered around the adoptee.

Your hands are kind of tied in that sense where it's like – And I noticed a lot of people saying that, get a lawyer, get a – and I'm like, you guys – You can't do anything. Adoption is not legally binding.

Your hands are kind of tied in that sense where it's like – And I noticed a lot of people saying that, get a lawyer, get a – and I'm like, you guys – You can't do anything. Adoption is not legally binding.

Your hands are kind of tied in that sense where it's like – And I noticed a lot of people saying that, get a lawyer, get a – and I'm like, you guys – You can't do anything. Adoption is not legally binding.

Well, and now the fact of the matter, too, of Carly being 14, it's not like she doesn't remember all those memories.

Well, and now the fact of the matter, too, of Carly being 14, it's not like she doesn't remember all those memories.

Well, and now the fact of the matter, too, of Carly being 14, it's not like she doesn't remember all those memories.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. We were literally left in the dark.

Yeah. We were literally left in the dark.

Yeah. We were literally left in the dark.

Some stuff is too hard for me.

Some stuff is too hard for me.

Some stuff is too hard for me.

Like, our feelings don't matter. That's what it's felt like for 14 years almost.

Like, our feelings don't matter. That's what it's felt like for 14 years almost.

Like, our feelings don't matter. That's what it's felt like for 14 years almost.

Yeah, she's spicy and yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so.