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Podcast Appearances
Right.
That's what I'm thinking.
Well, right.
And I saw her getting a lot of hate for that.
And then also, too, it makes me think of... I saw things coming out about... What was it?
Angelina Jolie's daughter or something.
Her birth mom was actually alive and not dead.
But...
I don't know.
So it just makes me think of all these like rich people or influencers adopting babies and it's like โ Well, the thing about it is though is that โ and people on the other side of it will say it's so difficult.
How with money?
Which is weird.
Because they have money and power.
You can tell them that, but once you leave, you don't have to, you don't have to.
Yeah.
What is your journey?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, four months younger too.
Um, four months younger.