Cate

I know, because when I was telling Nova that today, I'm like, yeah, today is our 10-year anniversary.

She's like, what?

I thought it was longer than that.

I'm like, it is.

But we've been married 10 years together for longer.

Well, no, Nova was like, oh, I thought it was longer than that.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah, we'll never be able to forget it.

She's the same age that we are when we got married.

Well, I mean, our first year of marriage was hell.

But the first year of marriage was crazy.

No, we were.

You know what I'm saying?

it was rough it was very rough yeah and we had rough I mean I think every marriage has its rough patches throughout the years you know what I mean how would you like categorize our rough patches like like if you could break it down like okay this was the worst that was like I think it was just a lot of the mental health stuff that sucked yeah

You know what I mean?

Me trying to figure out what it is, how do I deal with it, all the things.

You feeling like you're having to be, like, a caretaker or to, like, try to fix it or, you know, whatever.

Like, caregiving, whatever.

What is that called?