Catherine Liddle

And traditional owners have fought very hard for the reputation of our town to be one that reflects

What is actually there?

You know, even as you land and you have to go through those incredible rangers, you know, our ancestors, the great caterpillars who once defended us, decapitated in war.

And those stories are written into the landscape all around Yellow Springs.

So I think even if you are not familiar with how to read those stories, you certainly can feel it.

But we can't shy away from the fact that we've got some really challenging social issues.

We really do.

Where you have high levels of poverty and people that are disenfranchised, you are going to have some really challenging social issues.

But it is part of the fabric and when those things and the flashpoints in time are told by others, then what happens is people don't want to come.

They don't want to visit.

For example, the riots in Alice Springs, is that actually what happened?

Was it a riot or were there a lot of people that were gathered and they were angry and they were agitated and they reacted at a moment of extraordinary emotion?

And I'm pretty certain listeners have all felt some of that extraordinary emotion.

Again, being very clear, I'm not making any excuses for that.

But it was a flashpoint in this whole conversation and how much of the story has been on that moment in time as opposed to thinking about what we should be thinking about, and that is a little girl has lost her life in the most horrific circumstances and right now her family is calling for peace and calm and to grieve.

Look, there are some really tough questions that have to be asked.

There's absolutely no doubt about it.

And what they're saying is put the attention where it needs to be.

And the biggest question is, how did someone get released from a camp 500 kilometres away and end up in a town camp in Alice Springs?

Someone that's been released from custody end up in a town camp with no money, not given any financial support, no transition of...