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Catherine Rampell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
570 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

last year shortly after the election because they didn't think at all that you know they seem to think that there was zero probability that he would do the thing that he said he was going to do and they would only get the goodies essentially and now we're seeing people absorb the reality

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

last year shortly after the election because they didn't think at all that you know they seem to think that there was zero probability that he would do the thing that he said he was going to do and they would only get the goodies essentially and now we're seeing people absorb the reality

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of schadenfreude about random Trump voters who supported him thinking he was going to bring down prices or make IVF free or one of various other ridiculous promises that he made. And now they're getting what's coming to them. And that's not really how I feel. I feel like Trump lied a lot on the campaign during the campaign about what he was going to do.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of schadenfreude about random Trump voters who supported him thinking he was going to bring down prices or make IVF free or one of various other ridiculous promises that he made. And now they're getting what's coming to them. And that's not really how I feel. I feel like Trump lied a lot on the campaign during the campaign about what he was going to do.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of schadenfreude about random Trump voters who supported him thinking he was going to bring down prices or make IVF free or one of various other ridiculous promises that he made. And now they're getting what's coming to them. And that's not really how I feel. I feel like Trump lied a lot on the campaign during the campaign about what he was going to do.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

And normal American voters generally don't have the bandwidth to do a lot of in-depth research about, for example, what happens when you impose a tariff, right? Some of these things that he talked about were not super intuitive. Some of them were in terms of what effects they would have. Some of them were just outright lies, like the IVF thing.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

And normal American voters generally don't have the bandwidth to do a lot of in-depth research about, for example, what happens when you impose a tariff, right? Some of these things that he talked about were not super intuitive. Some of them were in terms of what effects they would have. Some of them were just outright lies, like the IVF thing.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

And normal American voters generally don't have the bandwidth to do a lot of in-depth research about, for example, what happens when you impose a tariff, right? Some of these things that he talked about were not super intuitive. Some of them were in terms of what effects they would have. Some of them were just outright lies, like the IVF thing.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

But things like, oh, he's going to bring down prices and he's going to make China pay for the tariffs or whatever, right? I think the fact that the falsity of all of that didn't penetrate regular Americans is not entirely their fault. I think the media didn't do a great job in covering things. Probably the marginal voter who made the difference here, at least, is somewhat disengaged from politics.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

But things like, oh, he's going to bring down prices and he's going to make China pay for the tariffs or whatever, right? I think the fact that the falsity of all of that didn't penetrate regular Americans is not entirely their fault. I think the media didn't do a great job in covering things. Probably the marginal voter who made the difference here, at least, is somewhat disengaged from politics.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

But things like, oh, he's going to bring down prices and he's going to make China pay for the tariffs or whatever, right? I think the fact that the falsity of all of that didn't penetrate regular Americans is not entirely their fault. I think the media didn't do a great job in covering things. Probably the marginal voter who made the difference here, at least, is somewhat disengaged from politics.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

So for those people, it's easy for people to spike the football. But for those voters who thought they were getting one thing and are now enduring a bait and switch, you know, I don't entirely blame them. But for the people on Wall Street. They are paid to get this right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

So for those people, it's easy for people to spike the football. But for those voters who thought they were getting one thing and are now enduring a bait and switch, you know, I don't entirely blame them. But for the people on Wall Street. They are paid to get this right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

So for those people, it's easy for people to spike the football. But for those voters who thought they were getting one thing and are now enduring a bait and switch, you know, I don't entirely blame them. But for the people on Wall Street. They are paid to get this right.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

They are paid to make accurate predictions, to read all of the white papers such as they are to figure out what Trump's proposals would be or at least the range of what they could be and then the range of outcomes. They're paid to know how tariffs work, things like that. And for them...

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

They are paid to make accurate predictions, to read all of the white papers such as they are to figure out what Trump's proposals would be or at least the range of what they could be and then the range of outcomes. They're paid to know how tariffs work, things like that. And for them...

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

They are paid to make accurate predictions, to read all of the white papers such as they are to figure out what Trump's proposals would be or at least the range of what they could be and then the range of outcomes. They're paid to know how tariffs work, things like that. And for them...

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

I have much less sympathy because besides the fact that like they clearly got the economics wrong, I think they also made some other Faustian bargains like, oh, well, we're going to get tax cuts in there for even if he does all of the other stuff. Forget the tariffs, like forget the destructive economic stuff.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

I have much less sympathy because besides the fact that like they clearly got the economics wrong, I think they also made some other Faustian bargains like, oh, well, we're going to get tax cuts in there for even if he does all of the other stuff. Forget the tariffs, like forget the destructive economic stuff.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

I have much less sympathy because besides the fact that like they clearly got the economics wrong, I think they also made some other Faustian bargains like, oh, well, we're going to get tax cuts in there for even if he does all of the other stuff. Forget the tariffs, like forget the destructive economic stuff.