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Catherine Rampell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

if he acts on all of these openly stated plans to weaponize government against his enemies, to curb civil rights, et cetera, that's a trade I'm willing to make. So like on multiple levels, the support from a lot of, not everyone on Wall Street, but the support of people on Wall Street and various other executives in corporate America, I am much less sympathetic to.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

if he acts on all of these openly stated plans to weaponize government against his enemies, to curb civil rights, et cetera, that's a trade I'm willing to make. So like on multiple levels, the support from a lot of, not everyone on Wall Street, but the support of people on Wall Street and various other executives in corporate America, I am much less sympathetic to.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

if he acts on all of these openly stated plans to weaponize government against his enemies, to curb civil rights, et cetera, that's a trade I'm willing to make. So like on multiple levels, the support from a lot of, not everyone on Wall Street, but the support of people on Wall Street and various other executives in corporate America, I am much less sympathetic to.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

The problem is they're not the only victims.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

The problem is they're not the only victims.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

The problem is they're not the only victims.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Even poor Elon Musk, as I've been saying, he invested $200 million into Donald Trump's campaign so that he and Trump could run government together. And it turns out, unfortunately, they suck at running government. And now he's like $130 billion poorer, right? Because Tesla stock has gone down.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Even poor Elon Musk, as I've been saying, he invested $200 million into Donald Trump's campaign so that he and Trump could run government together. And it turns out, unfortunately, they suck at running government. And now he's like $130 billion poorer, right? Because Tesla stock has gone down.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Even poor Elon Musk, as I've been saying, he invested $200 million into Donald Trump's campaign so that he and Trump could run government together. And it turns out, unfortunately, they suck at running government. And now he's like $130 billion poorer, right? Because Tesla stock has gone down.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

I think he lost like a quarter of his net worth since the beginning of the year or something like that. It's much bigger than 2%, whatever it is.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

I think he lost like a quarter of his net worth since the beginning of the year or something like that. It's much bigger than 2%, whatever it is.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

I think he lost like a quarter of his net worth since the beginning of the year or something like that. It's much bigger than 2%, whatever it is.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Yeah. To unpack that a little bit, usually when stock markets go down, it means people are selling off their stocks, right? And then they have cash, and then they dump that cash into bonds, so like treasuries.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Yeah. To unpack that a little bit, usually when stock markets go down, it means people are selling off their stocks, right? And then they have cash, and then they dump that cash into bonds, so like treasuries.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Yeah. To unpack that a little bit, usually when stock markets go down, it means people are selling off their stocks, right? And then they have cash, and then they dump that cash into bonds, so like treasuries.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Okay? So they put the cash into bonds, right? When they buy bonds, the price of bonds goes up and their interest rate goes down. Sorry for all the technical steps, but this is just to explain that usually when equities fall, you see bond rates falling too. We are not seeing that now. Okay. And... Trump clearly expected it to happen.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Okay? So they put the cash into bonds, right? When they buy bonds, the price of bonds goes up and their interest rate goes down. Sorry for all the technical steps, but this is just to explain that usually when equities fall, you see bond rates falling too. We are not seeing that now. Okay. And... Trump clearly expected it to happen.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

Okay? So they put the cash into bonds, right? When they buy bonds, the price of bonds goes up and their interest rate goes down. Sorry for all the technical steps, but this is just to explain that usually when equities fall, you see bond rates falling too. We are not seeing that now. Okay. And... Trump clearly expected it to happen.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

And it did happen in like very initially at the beginning of Tariffmageddon. We saw rates come down a little bit and he was like, aha, see, I'm reducing interest rates and the Fed is behind. And because, you know, Trump loves low interest rates. But then, in fact, this weird thing happened that Larry's talking about where where long term interest rates went.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

And it did happen in like very initially at the beginning of Tariffmageddon. We saw rates come down a little bit and he was like, aha, see, I'm reducing interest rates and the Fed is behind. And because, you know, Trump loves low interest rates. But then, in fact, this weird thing happened that Larry's talking about where where long term interest rates went.