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Catherine Rampell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
842 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Yeah, I think there's already evidence of that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Inflation has picked up since Trump's Liberation Day in April.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Those things are not unrelated.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Inflation had been sort of like trending downward for a long time, and now it's been picking back up.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

In addition to higher prices, higher price growth, you're also seeing, as we've been discussing, some job losses and some slowdown in the economy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

That's the stagnation and the inflation that, you know, come together and become a stagflation.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

A beautiful word.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Exactly.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Something people don't say anymore.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Trump is actually bringing it back this time.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

But he literally is because the explanation behind both of those bad things happening is tariffs, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Tariffs raise prices.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

That's the inflation part.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

And tariffs also weigh on the economy and make it harder for businesses to invest and grow.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

and buy stuff.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

That's the stagnation part.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

So Trump, again, is single-handedly dragging down the economy and also making it much harder for the Fed to do its job.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Because the Fed is supposed to both promote stable prices and maximum employment, and tariffs make both of those

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

harder.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

And the thing you would do if you're the Fed to address one of those problems is the opposite of the thing you would do to address the other one of those problems, specifically that if you care about inflation, you would raise interest rates.