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Catherine Rampell

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842 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Yeah, it's totally related to the stock market.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

And actually, if you look at like the University of Michigan consumer sentiment numbers, they broke out the share of people who talked about their personal finances deteriorating because of higher prices.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

They broke it out for those who own a lot of stocks and those who own no stocks.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

And as you can imagine, the people who do own stocks are...

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

much more copacetic, I guess.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Like they're mad about gas prices and they're mad about grocery prices going up because they are going up.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

They're mad about all of those things, but then they look over at their 401k and they're like, meh, you know, maybe it's worth it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Maybe it's worth the trade-off.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Whereas people who do not have those financial assets, who are lower income and

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

They can't just eat it on those higher gas prices or other higher prices that they're paying.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

And they don't have that like nice little nest egg to think about.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

So, yeah, you are seeing a divergence.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

But in general, I mean, people are still pretty unhappy with the economy, even the people who are higher income.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

They're just like less unhappy than the poorest people out there.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Yeah.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

It's the prices that are charged by wholesalers.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

I think that's a good role, like a good way to think about it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

And those prices are rising a lot.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

And one reason why, as you point out, you know, is like, they're more likely to be dealing with the energy shock.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

You know, it