Chantal Hebert

So this conversation that could be ongoing in Parliament about Alberta would probably be one of the greatest gifts to the Parti Québécois.

who would then campaign not on we want to hold a referendum, but look at how these people are thinking that they can dictate the terms of how we debate our future, our political future.

And that's why I'm with Bruce.

The best case scenario for Mark Carney would be that this question is asked later or is not asked at all.

Oh, by the way, it did have an impact.

It helped the, yes, like this demonstration.

So before you brought trains and flags, it's not...

The notion that other Canadians don't care about Alberta or care about Alberta isn't measured by the number of people who would get on a train to foolishly come and talk about their perspective with little understanding of where the Alberta movement comes from.

But by the same token and in the reverse, treating the Alberta separation movement as just a bunch of clowns that should be dismissed is also terribly counterproductive.

And you've seen it in action when Toronto voted for a mayor called Ford.

What did the established voices of Toronto do during that municipal campaign?

They basically said, this guy has a clown.

Only dumb people vote for clowns.

What happened?

So if you want to bolster the separation forces, just dismiss the people who are trying to get this question on the ballot as a bunch of hicks who do know nothing.

And it will get you to a higher percentage of people who want to vote yes.

And it's a bit more complicated than that.

Yeah, but it does involve you becoming a co-owner of maybe of another pipeline.

And at that point, other Canadians will have some thoughts about that.

I've read the reviews of that speech to a very, or what should have been a very friendly crowd.