Chantal Hébert

I was defining it for him, really.

Put it on eBay.

So he doesn't even need a deal to be able to...

I'm not sure that Trump is trying to find an agreement that does everything that Bruce says.

I think people in the administration and around the administration are trying to do that.

which goes back to Peter's point about when it lands on his desk, what happens to Kuzma or whatever.

I thought we had come to the conclusion that anything that involves the word track record talking about Trump should be thrown out the window.

uh because when he was re-elected wasn't the general thinking being that we've done this once and we know it works and we can do it again and that has proven to be that whoever was that person in the white house surrounded by adults back then is not the person we are dealing with at this point mr trump found something great to say about the best deal he negotiated the last time the cure and kuzma deal

This week, what did he find that was great about it?

The clause that allows the US to walk away, which is not kind of the signal that you want from someone who says, I negotiated this.

It's full of good parts.

And it's my creation.

I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

But I was listening to Bruce.

I guess my uneasiness on this relative optimism comes from my experience with constitutional talks in this country.

This feeling, and if you guys remember, and I cover that on a daily basis, it came in waves.

There was a wave of optimism, followed by a wave of pessimism, followed by more.

But if you looked at actual facts, nothing had happened.

There was just a mood change.

And I was listening to Bruce, and I was thinking, perhaps real things are happening in a positive sense.