Charles Homans
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first heard Jan 2026
last heard 26 Aug
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The other scenario is that DSA is something more like MAGA, a movement that sort of initially establishment Republicans kind of made fun of and didn't take seriously, and then accommodated, and then it eventually devoured the party.
That was obviously only really possible with the presence of somebody like Donald Trump, who doesn't exist in DSA.
Well, the thing about DSA is that in spite of all of its organizational problems, some of its chapters, particularly New York, have succeeded in producing really dynamic, successful politicians.
They've produced Mamdani, they've produced AOC.
And that's why I think people who both want to see the DSA succeed at the national level, and people who are very concerned about DSA agree that the real game changer in this, and you know, possibly the necessary
necessary game changer from DSA's standpoint is a presidential candidacy, a strong contender who comes out of DSA, who isn't just a socialist like Bernie Sanders, but is actually a DSA candidate.
You know, that is something that I think everybody agrees could really transform the place of DSA in American politics.
I mean, if you look at the arc of American political history, ideas that are coming in from pretty far outside of the mainstream of politics struggle to colonize those politics from the ground up.
What is really invaluable is to have a head of state or even a strong presidential candidate bring those ideas in a very high profile and central way in front of
The majority of the American population and sort of acclimatize them to these ideas, normalize these ideas.
FDR as president did that with these progressive policy ideas that again we might in another context have associated with socialism.
Right.
Ronald Reagan did the same thing with conservatism.
Conservatism was a marginal movement in the Republican Party for years, and it was really sort of the concerted efforts of Reagan that really brought
That not just into the mainstream of American politics, but made it really the sort of unconquerable like doctrine inside of the Republican Party eventually.
Donald Trump, in his own way, has clearly done that with a lot of ideas that were considered wildly outside of American politics a decade ago.
There's really no substitute for a politician at that national level who is able to just sort of center a political program.
I think if you have a democratic socialist running as the democratic nominee in a presidential election, you end up with a referendum on socialism that we have never had in this country.
In one scenario, this normalizes the ideas that socialists have been arguing for in this country for over a century.
This word that has for years had this taboo around it loses the kind of scariness with even
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