Charles Murray

I've been looking forward to it.

Well, a little background to it is that

I am no good at spiritual perceptiveness, which I consider to be a trait in human beings that runs from low to high.

And some people have more than others, and I have very little.

My wife has a lot, but I don't.

And so when I started to get interested in religion, largely because of my wife,

I was not going to have a road to Damascus moment in an ordinary sense of that term.

That's just not in my makeup.

But I did have a road to Damascus moment when I read a little book called Just Six Numbers by a guy named Martin Rees, who's astronomer royal, used to be in Great Britain.

And he made the point in this little book, non-religiously, not a religious book, that the Big Bang was accompanied by a

variety of settings, if you want to think of it that way, of physical settings, that if they all hadn't been exactly where they are, then we would live in a universe of black holes and nothing else, or live in a universe of radiation and no stars and no planets.

And of course, it's incorrect to say we would live in a universe like that because that universe would not support life.

Well, I finished this little book.

And by the way, the odds against all these settings being right by accident are literally trillions to one.

And I got done with that and I said, I can't believe I'm thinking this, but I think the only plausible explanation is that the universe was created with intention.

That's a huge leap.

Because once you say the universe was created with intention, that opens up possibilities of a way different kind of God than I had been willing to consider previously.

A God who actually might be interested in human beings.

Well, without knowing,

that I was changing my belief, I changed it.