Charli XCX

do that for real and i think most parents would kind of be like you shouldn't do that that feels unreliable and stressful and why don't you pursue something else but i think he was always a bit of a dreamer um which sounds like a horrid sort of cheesy thing to say but he really was and and so i think for him it was like oh if you're passionate about something that's really cool like let's

try and like figure that out.

And I feel very, very, very lucky for that.

You know, it's very cool.

All the time.

All the time, yeah.

I know.

I know, I know, I know.

Yeah, my side hustle.

It was a lot of keyboard playing, playing the keyboard and kind of, I had like this Yamaha keyboard and I was like making a lot of beats on there and then like record, like doing, like recording kind of separately all the different layers.

um so yeah it was kind of like writing lyrics and then um trying to figure out chords and very much like piano orientated and I think it all began because I had this boyfriend who turned out to be gay and honestly all the signs were so there he was like the coolest um

And not many 15-year-old boys are that cool.

And he was so cool.

He had great style, great taste.

He made me a mixtape of stuff that I had never heard before.

And I think that was kind of the moment where I was like, oh, he kind of opened my eyes to all of these different artists that I hadn't really been listening to that much before.

Like some kind of...

indie bands and then like stuff like Gang of Four and like, I don't know, like a lot of stuff that I had not really, that it hadn't been on my radar.

And at that point, I think I kind of had the hunger to try and write things myself a bit more.

Yeah.