Charli XCX

Kind of.

It's interesting.

It's like there is this misconception that I was writing for people first.

I actually made a record first and it was really, really good.

And it was like critically acclaimed, but it sold about honestly like 11 copies.

It was like really like no one bought it, basically.

No one bought it.

No one really heard of it apart from like the five people who reviewed it.

Love them, you know.

But like, there was like a small fan base of people who were into it.

It was called True Romance.

And I was signed at that time to Atlantic Records.

And I'm pretty sure they would have dropped me like there and then after that album.

And at this point in time, this is God, what, like 2012?

I could be so wrong 2013 but this was like a point in time where like record labels had so much more power over an artist and their career and whether they could even have a career I mean I think it's so different now but back then it was like especially being a woman making pop music it was like if you didn't have a label like forget about it you know what I mean but right now

Right at the kind of end of that album campaign, which it wasn't even a campaign, it just came out, whatever.

I wrote this song called I Love It, which was sung by this Swedish band called Iconopop.

And that became a big song.

And I think that started my career of writing for others.

And if I hadn't had that...