Charlie Dent

Jessica, great to be with you. Thank you.

Jessica, great to be with you. Thank you.

Jessica, great to be with you. Thank you.

Yeah, I mean, for me, look, I feel... You called me a conservative. Some people call me center right or common sense conservative. I mean, moderate, pragmatic, choose your favorite term. But what drove me away was, you know, I always said this wasn't a these these elections with Donald Trump were not about right or left from a policy perspective. I always thought they're about right or wrong.

Yeah, I mean, for me, look, I feel... You called me a conservative. Some people call me center right or common sense conservative. I mean, moderate, pragmatic, choose your favorite term. But what drove me away was, you know, I always said this wasn't a these these elections with Donald Trump were not about right or left from a policy perspective. I always thought they're about right or wrong.

Yeah, I mean, for me, look, I feel... You called me a conservative. Some people call me center right or common sense conservative. I mean, moderate, pragmatic, choose your favorite term. But what drove me away was, you know, I always said this wasn't a these these elections with Donald Trump were not about right or left from a policy perspective. I always thought they're about right or wrong.

I often thought that what the MAGA movement represented in the form of Donald Trump was a particular type of protectionism, isolationism, nativism, at times nihilism, and what I would call a dangerous populism. And it really, it's not particularly ideological. It's really about loyalty to a particular individual. It's not about fidelity to any type of principles.

I often thought that what the MAGA movement represented in the form of Donald Trump was a particular type of protectionism, isolationism, nativism, at times nihilism, and what I would call a dangerous populism. And it really, it's not particularly ideological. It's really about loyalty to a particular individual. It's not about fidelity to any type of principles.

I often thought that what the MAGA movement represented in the form of Donald Trump was a particular type of protectionism, isolationism, nativism, at times nihilism, and what I would call a dangerous populism. And it really, it's not particularly ideological. It's really about loyalty to a particular individual. It's not about fidelity to any type of principles.

If you were to ask me what kind of person, you know, I kind of view myself as an Edmund Burke type. That if, you know, if we're going to be Republicans, that we should be about incremental change. And we believe in evolutionary systems, not revolutionary systems. We believe in measured statements. We believe in, you know, discipline. And that's kind of where we got stability and order.

If you were to ask me what kind of person, you know, I kind of view myself as an Edmund Burke type. That if, you know, if we're going to be Republicans, that we should be about incremental change. And we believe in evolutionary systems, not revolutionary systems. We believe in measured statements. We believe in, you know, discipline. And that's kind of where we got stability and order.

If you were to ask me what kind of person, you know, I kind of view myself as an Edmund Burke type. That if, you know, if we're going to be Republicans, that we should be about incremental change. And we believe in evolutionary systems, not revolutionary systems. We believe in measured statements. We believe in, you know, discipline. And that's kind of where we got stability and order.

I mean, that's where I think a lot of sort of center right folks come from or center right conservatives come from. And I don't think that's where the party is right now. It's taken on a form of, you know, radical positions like on tariffs that are completely antithetical to.

I mean, that's where I think a lot of sort of center right folks come from or center right conservatives come from. And I don't think that's where the party is right now. It's taken on a form of, you know, radical positions like on tariffs that are completely antithetical to.

I mean, that's where I think a lot of sort of center right folks come from or center right conservatives come from. And I don't think that's where the party is right now. It's taken on a form of, you know, radical positions like on tariffs that are completely antithetical to.

to free markets and certainly represent a type of revolutionary change that should really appall people who would kind of embrace that center-right or conservative ideology.

to free markets and certainly represent a type of revolutionary change that should really appall people who would kind of embrace that center-right or conservative ideology.

to free markets and certainly represent a type of revolutionary change that should really appall people who would kind of embrace that center-right or conservative ideology.

Well, Trump's tariff policy is essentially very similar to what the AFL-CIO would be proposing. The AFL-CIO Democrats, Sean Fain at the UAW, is very supportive of many of these tariffs, apparently. And I guess what I find remarkable is that Democrats have not been able to articulate a strong, forceful opposition policy To the Trump tariffs, because many of them agree with the basic policy.

Well, Trump's tariff policy is essentially very similar to what the AFL-CIO would be proposing. The AFL-CIO Democrats, Sean Fain at the UAW, is very supportive of many of these tariffs, apparently. And I guess what I find remarkable is that Democrats have not been able to articulate a strong, forceful opposition policy To the Trump tariffs, because many of them agree with the basic policy.