Charlie Foltz

As soon as we got back, they were all confiscated.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

He was one of the Mercury 7.

Well, about seeing when they were orbiting, he saw, well, not they, each astronaut orbited by themselves.

And, you know, because they only had seven astronauts, they only had seven capsules.

So Cooper said that he had witnessed, and I guess he was on the radio back with,

the ground control, and then they, like, they often do switch to another radio frequency to get off of the public radio frequencies.

Who the hell did we meet?

Some guy from Australia that had...

been recording and when they switched to a different channel he was able to switch because he knew where that channel was and he switched over to that channel and he recorded some of the interchange going back and forth it's amazing how much information is out there and has been out there

But it was just in tighter circles.

The circles are expanding now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

And he had seen that one before the Mercury program because the Mercury program didn't start until I think like 59.

58, yeah.

58, 59.

And so by 1969, when we landed on the moon, I was stationed over in Europe.

I remember that.