Charlie Foltz

night incredibly well because all the bars, you know, it was nighttime for us over there.

All the bars were open.

And they all had these tiny little black and white TVs that were all snowy and were watching the astronauts on the moon.

So we all grabbed our beers or whatever we were drinking and we went out in the streets.

Thousands of us Americans were all toasting the guys on the moon with our beers.

Now the moon belongs to us because we got our flag there.

Just that it had come in proximity with him.

And I think he said it was green, if I'm not mistaken, but I don't know.

I might be confusing that with other astronauts that it had encounters.

kind of spur catalyst what was the catalyst to Jim and Jack both at the same time in two different states Jim lived in Massachusetts Jack in Vermont with his wife they both started experiencing these

identical nightmares.

Well, similar.

Similar.

Well, for lack of a better word, they were identical in as much as they had the same four people, the two twins, me, and the other guy.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Well, that was the only time that we had ever done anything together like that.

I mean.

Like being in a doctor's office.

Strange things are being done to you with no explanation.