Charlie Houpert

Most people can be put off by that at first blush.

Maybe down the line, when they get to know you a little bit better, it's like, okay, that person's out there, and that's awesome.

But we specifically wore our most...

the clothing that we could for that shot.

I never dress like that.

Yeah.

So I've got to say for our work week, but I'm sure you've heard that a million times.

So the one that I'll say is Running Lean by Ash Maria.

And that is the one that helped us come up with this strategy to create the Charisma University program.

So if you want more in-depth stuff of how to interview the people that you want to sell to, that is great.

Yeah, there's really not.

I'm not, business is the fourth or fifth most important thing in my life, maybe.

What's number one?

I love music and I love my friends.

So the person that I would say that I'm following right now is Ed Sheeran.

I'm trying to learn how to sing and play like him.

It's gonna be the project of many, many years if I ever get there.

Yeah, so for me, I like Let's Duo.

It's not very well supported, but it's this program that you can log into and have a two-person journal.

And it will ping the other person via email when you write.