Charlie Kravitz
Appearances
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
You didn't like the end of it when he punched the guy?
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
I think Bob Kraft has some regrets of things that have gone public, for sure. We broke Dominique. This topic broke Dominique.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Do you think she wanted him in the screen?
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Okay, I brought you guys a story from the New York Times that came out on December 26th by Zachary Small called Video Games Can't Afford to Look This Good. The basics of the story were that throughout all of our lives, there was a boom in technology and video games became more and more hyper real. And it used to drive sales and interest that games looked good. way better and more realistic.
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I'm sure you had this moment, like for me, I remember seeing the first map in N64 with Mario. I'm like, oh my God, this doesn't look like a Game Boy. Well, it turns out they're diminishing marginal returns as these maps have gotten more and more extreme. The graphics have gotten more and more hyper-real.
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The games have become less fun to a lot of people and replaced by something that seems too much like real life. And for the first time, the video game industry is shrinking because of that.
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It's Roblox. It's Fortnite. It's Minecraft. And it's about community. It's about people want to have fun with their friends. And video games became something that can replace some social interactions. And the map and the hyper-realism and having to, like... play NBA 2K and have it be way more realistic than it was in 2012 actually wasn't driving stuff.
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I thought this was really interesting for a number of reasons. One, it immediately connected to, I'm sure, what you felt. Dominique might have been where this was age-appropriate, but despite the fact that there was Xbox and PS3 or whatever whenever we were in college, there was an N64 in every dorm because people wanted to play games together.
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And it wasn't about having the best graphics or the best stuff. It was about a sense of community and normalcy and the games were supposed to be fun. I found this to be a really interesting thing that They're now realizing that, that there's no reason to make Spider-Man look like Spider-Man.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
I really should. Minimum. Minimum. A girl once called me the face of the Vanderbilt social scene. Not the body of the Vanderbilt Socialist.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
I'm glad you brought this up because this is the exact connection point I thought about. There's a line in the article that basically talks about theories of why people have stopped wanting the hyperrealism and that it's an investment in graphics that creates a hollow experience. You don't feel anything. You don't connect with people on it.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Not the brain.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
That to me, you just brought up something that's happening in video, YouTube videos. People crave authenticity. They crave real conversations. It's like you look at the best podcast, you look at the best shows, the things that have lasted forever, whether it's a PTI or Dan Levitard show, the communities they create, pardon my take, whatever, all that stuff.
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They create people who really want to engage with that stuff. I want to connect this back to something. The last time we were all together in Miami, Pablo went mini viral. Oh, yeah. Because he talked about, you know, the tape... That was another stolen take. It was.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
You see your stupid fat face everywhere. Curly hair. Red, red, reeking of stale beer.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Authenticity. That's what I'm trying to make your show better, being authentic. Mine and Pablo's take was that... Pablo articulated better, which is that football media, particularly, I mean, it's in all sports media, but football and basketball and football in particular, they want to watch the tape and they want to tell you about the EPA and they fetishize jargon.
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And that pissed off a lot of ball knowers online and Twitter people are like, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. This is the most complex sport.
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But here's the thing is you were right because a real expert can explain something and make it seem simple, not explain it and make it seem more complicated. And the reason that the word hollow experience I thought was really interesting was there was this incredible shift in football media from the caveman jacked up which was kind of dope. I'm not going to forget.
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John Taylor hitting that punter was pretty awesome. It was. To this really specific EPA per play DVOA. And if you disagree with it, they're like, you don't get the stats. You don't watch the tape. And...
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Instead of having this community around a show that's something that's fun, that drives discussion, something that Dan does or PTI does, it gets people who are like, this feels like talking about sports with a friend. And the experiences move really far. And then you see how it's shifting back.
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It's people actually don't care about having this graphic with everything explained to them being like, there's no possible way I'm wrong about this. They want to talk about sports like normal people. Does it feel social?
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
If I showed you the photo, there— This is good.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
There was religious protesters that came to, like, protest party at Vanderbilt.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
And it's also the certainty of it, to me. It's like when you say something so definitively, it takes away all the conversation, all the way normal people want to think about a game. It should be an invitation.
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We shouldn't be boxing people out of talking about sports or being interested in these discussions simply because there are certain people who have access to tape or stats that other people don't. It's not a direct answer. They're supposed to support your opinions.
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Like a footloose situation? More or less. They were like, this is a life of sin. And they had like gigantic signs. And of course, we just like... went up in front of them and shotgunned in their face and threw the beer cans down and were like, eat it, weirdos.
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I mean, have video games ever gotten better than like... Halo 2, Blood Gulch, Battle Rifles, with your friends when you're 14. I'm an energy sword guy. Either way, an even more simple version of it.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
That stuff was awesome. I still remember when you had Game Boys and you could get the cord and trade Pokemon from the red and the blue thing to complete your set. That was just literally building in community to the easiest game. That was the exact same except for the color of the cartridge and a couple Pokemon you could get. And that stuff was awesome.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Of course not. Because it was cheating. It was cheating. iJob, Michael Vick, and Madden. Obviously.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
I think he is the Bryce Young of texting. He is the most improved texter.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
He's cratered his own expectations. He's sending memes and GIFs.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
He's responding to everything.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
He's starting conversations via text.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
And he also used to be the anxiety-inducing texter, too, because he would just respond, okay, dot, or yes, dot.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Yeah, there have been a couple times where I've called Dominique after an okay. He's like, yeah, no, I was saying okay. I'm sorry. That tracks.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
I mean, this was awesome. It was sick. Declan dapping up Derrick Henry, taking pictures with 2 Chainz. Yeah, it was pretty cool. He met a bunch of players. Yeah, it was cool for him.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
He's an elite group chatter. Doesn't overdo it.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
No question. In the sports media power ranking, it was the worst texters. Katie had the two phones thing. It was impossible.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
And then... I don't know what that means, but it seemed right. Dan either doesn't respond or sends a way too long text. And you read it, and you're like, God, I suck at everything. Thanks, Dan.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Do you think when he sends an email, it's like he's voice dictating it because of the lack of punctuation? It kind of... No way.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Do you have a power ranking of worst sports media texters? Dominique's dead last. Dead last.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
The little tiny text that Dominique Foxworth has left the chat is... I'm gone, bro.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Do you like sign like some... Oh, hell yeah.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Not even a thumbs up? What the f*** are you talking about? Is this a sad face? I don't know.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Yeah, got to name... But also, once it's in the chat, someone has to respond.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
We're in a very fun title group chat, the three of us. Are we?
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Rust Belt Strip Club enthusiasts.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Because Dominique was an enthusiast as a teen. I was not.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Debatable ended.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
With the Galaxy Watch 7 or the Galaxy Ring and the Samsung Health app.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
I got a question about the group chat stuff. Because Pablo is on the most liberal side of this. Can you betray the confidence of the group chat for content? What does betray mean? Use it publicly without everyone knowing it's going to be content. Of course not.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
That's a personal text. Long gone.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Pablo and I are not those type of friends. See, I would text something personal to Pablo on a side chat. But once it's in the main chat, first of all, I would never text something personal on the main chat because it's for jokes.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
No, no, I mean, I wouldn't even go to the group chat.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
I've said... sent bad texts that get silent. It's not bad, just like a bad joke or like, damn, that one bombed. It might be the worst feeling in the world.
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The other thing about the group chat is, like, it starts bigger, and then there's splinter smaller chats. And I always wonder, like, what's the number where I know I got to the terminal ending of the smallest chat?
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
I'm in the six-person chat, but there's probably a four-person chat.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
That's right. He once put his AirPods upside down and Mike Ryan had to turn them right side up for him. So yes, that tracks. He gets a pass.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
There was a theme for this show. Oh. That theme... was being genuine and having community. And I found out that you guys are my community. And I really like that. It was great to be back here with us.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Dominique's hungry again.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Definitely not, but I'm familiar with the show.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
So Cortez loves Landman. He does. Jon Hamm. I don't know. I was just trying to spoil the finale for you.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Landman is someone who buys mineral rights to plots of land in Texas and then drills on them to find oil.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
This is his most maximalist show. It's filmed in Texas. It has some of the vibes of like a successor to Friday Night Lights without some of the depth.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
It has Billy Bob Thornton, Jon Hamm, Demi Moore, and it's completely over the top and like a very fun watch that has shockingly good acting despite the fact that it's like filling the old network soap things that we used to show while also sort of glorifying fossil fuels.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
The concept of going abroad in college was like, I can't miss a semester that's going to be the most fun semester of all time.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
I wonder how many times he's given that speech in his life.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Levitard and Katie Nolan. No question. Is the sports media power ranking his worst texters? Right after this ad.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Dominique is batting his eyes. Dominique thinks he can do that.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
This is the irrational confidence of Dominique saying he'd also do stand-up comedy. Is that a thing that we can test that? That's a take. That's an episode of the show. And Wyatt agreed.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
I've done all of it that I wanted to do. So there's, I look at this two ways. He's shockingly good in front of a live crowd. Like we did our live show last year. We're doing another one tomorrow night. By the time you're listening to this, we have already done our live podcast. Dominique will have gotten a Netflix special off the strength of that. But counterpoint, not funny. Tough for an open mic.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
That's crazy. Not that funny. Okay.
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Share & Oddjob & Tell with Domonique Foxworth and Charlie Kravitz
Yeah. Do I regret not going all across Europe? Because I applied to an abroad program and got into it and didn't do it. A little bit. Probably be more traveled, but don't regret being there. F***ing ruled. I love when Charlie turns into a bro. Hammering Natty Lights and having like all of Nashville is the best.
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Hawaiian shirt, three buttons unbuttoned. Sunday, Sam's Sports Bar. Watch football and drink. Monday, we went to, I can't remember the name of this bar. Tuesday, we had this thing called Newsday, which is like a weekend party. Wednesday was Trivia at Sam's. Thursday was out downtown Nashville. Friday was like fraternity party.